From min-kyu.cho@domain.hid Tue Feb 22 06:13:47 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrkZ9-0003rx-6g for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:13:47 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_20,HTML_MESSAGE, MSGID_MULTIPLE_AT autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from mailgate.vanderbilt.edu ([129.59.15.72]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrkZ8-0003qa-UV for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:13:39 +0100 Received: from its-hcwnem22.ds.vanderbilt.edu ([10.1.137.26]) by mailgate03.its.vanderbilt.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p1M5DCb2015219 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:13:12 -0600 Received: from KIMNCHO (129.59.15.27) by smtpauth.vanderbilt.edu (10.1.137.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.83.0; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:13:14 -0600 From: Min-Kyu Cho To: Subject: ImporError Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:13:12 -0600 Message-ID: <001f01cbd24f$350042d0$9f00c870$@cho@domain.hid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01CBD21C.EA65D2D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcvSTzP4lMfAunSdQ5KtnYAtQqH8iw== Content-Language: ko X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15, 1.0.148, 0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-22_02:2011-02-22, 2011-02-22, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-PPS: No, score=0 X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:13:47 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CBD21C.EA65D2D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Eddy, I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on Window7; ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the corresponding C module have not been compiled. What should I do? Cheers, Min-Kyu ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CBD21C.EA65D2D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Eddy,

 

I got the following error when I executed = ‘relax’ on Window7;

 

ImportError: relaxation curve = fitting is unavailable, the corresponding C module have not been = compiled.

 

What should I do?

 

Cheers,

Min-Kyu

 

------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CBD21C.EA65D2D0-- From edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Tue Feb 22 10:21:04 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ProQR-00077c-PF for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:21:04 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-iy0-f179.google.com ([209.85.210.179]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ProQR-00076s-Kh for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:20:55 +0100 Received: by iym7 with SMTP id 7so1177820iym.10 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 01:20:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=S8GMTFBxI4CpGSGB6ZVaYpaB8RyDFlYLxhkYbx5AfW0=; b=Nh2Af0tVcMacjY2/z+p9D7vDB9NW7xyqnWrPZXH11SHQOHKCKTJpS5EeGFnyEL4ya6 aV6ltm3xp2wFYtSTKK3MawqunpIY2K1+EffyDA/mTRCiLls33+/i0wHjmpbsf1Lv2mXp th/N5lHNSj2/AJh3WqMBvDCFSzOIRgVvjkd98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=WMXaF0uaS/bQfgVQJqd4QaEc8sdmKimvI5EVmXJyLqQ7epPkXoXFdiBffo3KhYouMU 9l0hA91fVcyMJn9XtgbHQTh9o1TXdkz+fBUA3HKh0/3OjMyj/uPH0i5oEj81Sss/yKp/ ZB+igcc0NHub6mjWes+Wi7BpV0SnfxKT9SBJw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.241.70 with SMTP id ld6mr3272165icb.124.1298366433106; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 01:20:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Received: by 10.231.39.141 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 01:20:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4878647560192870286@domain.hid> References: <4878647560192870286@domain.hid> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:20:33 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2QfDyoWBn8T7keLvEIgQ12Xo5pU Message-ID: Subject: Re: ImporError From: "Edward d'Auvergne" To: Min-Kyu Cho Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: relax-users@domain.hid X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 09:21:04 -0000 Hi, Are you using the Win32 compiled version from http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run: $ relax --info and copy the result? The problem here is that the C modules for the relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is either not compiled or the compiled version is incompatible with your combination of MS Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. It may be that you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which case the 32-bit C module will not work. If you don't need to use this part of relax, you can safely ignore this warning. However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have created instructions on how to set up a development environment on Windows to allow the C modules to be compiled: http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be possible to compile the module. Regards, Edward On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho wrote: > Hi Eddy, > > > > I got the following error when I executed =91relax=92 on Window7; > > > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the corresponding C > module have not been compiled. > > > > What should I do? > > > > Cheers, > > Min-Kyu > > > > _______________________________________________ > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > > This is the relax-users mailing list > relax-users@domain.hid > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > reminder, or change your subscription options, > visit the list information page at > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > > From min-kyu.cho@domain.hid Tue Feb 22 17:19:18 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PruxD-0004hu-8l for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:19:18 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,MSGID_MULTIPLE_AT autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from mailgate.vanderbilt.edu ([129.59.15.72]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PruxD-0004gI-0X for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:19:11 +0100 Received: from its-hcwnem22.ds.vanderbilt.edu ([10.1.137.26]) by mailgate03.its.vanderbilt.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p1MGIjWj024967 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:18:45 -0600 Received: from KIMNCHO (129.59.15.27) by smtpauth.vanderbilt.edu (10.1.137.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.83.0; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:18:47 -0600 From: Min-Kyu Cho To: "'Edward d'Auvergne'" References: <4878647560192870286@domain.hid> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: ImporError Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:18:46 -0600 Message-ID: <002c01cbd2ac$2ea56430$8bf02c90$@cho@domain.hid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcvScctMak7tDVUoRD2/SGF5FV7xNgAOYcOQ Content-Language: ko X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15, 1.0.148, 0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-22_07:2011-02-22, 2011-02-22, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-PPS: No, score=0 Cc: relax-users@domain.hid X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:19:18 -0000 Hi, Here is the output with >> relax --help: relax 1.3.10 Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute = under the conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program, = including all modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no = warranty. For details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be = accessed by typing 'help' within the prompt. ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the corresponding = C modules have not been compiled. Hardware information: Machine: x86 Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6, = GenuineIntel System information: System: Windows Release: post2008Server Version: 6.1.7600 Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600 Multiprocessor = Free Distribution: Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600 Software information: Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE Python version: 2.6.5 Python branch: tags/r265 Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 21:48:26 Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel) Python implementation: CPython Python revision: 79096 Numpy version: 1.5.1 Libc version: Python packages (most are optional): Package Installed Version Path minfx True Unknown = D:\Programs\relax\minfx bmrblib False numpy True 1.5.1 C:\Program Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy ScientificPython False wxPython True mpi4py False epydoc False optparse True 1.5.3 C:\Program Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py Numeric False readline True C:\Program Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py profile True C:\Program Files\Python26\lib\profile.py bz2 True C:\Program Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd gzip True C:\Program Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py os.devnull True C:\Program Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc Compiled relax C modules: Relaxation curve fitting: False --- It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I don't need it, = but will try later with my data.=20 Regards, Min-Kyu=20 +------------------------------+ Cho, Min-Kyu=20 Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 Phone: 615-936-3757=A0 /=A0 Fax: 615-936-2211 | > -----Original Message----- | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] = On | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > Subject: Re: ImporError | >=20 | > Hi, | >=20 | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run: | >=20 | > $ relax --info | >=20 | > and copy the result? The problem here is that the C modules for the | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is either not = compiled | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your combination of MS | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. It may be that | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which case the 32-bit = C | > module will not work. If you don't need to use this part of relax, | > you can safely ignore this warning. | >=20 | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have created | > instructions on how to set up a development environment on Windows = to | > allow the C modules to be compiled: | >=20 | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html | >=20 | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be possible to | > compile the module. | >=20 | > Regards, | >=20 | > Edward | >=20 | >=20 | >=20 | >=20 | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho | > wrote: | > > Hi Eddy, | > > | > > | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed =91relax=92 on Window7; | > > | > > | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the | > corresponding C | > > module have not been compiled. | > > | > > | > > | > > What should I do? | > > | > > | > > | > > Cheers, | > > | > > Min-Kyu | > > | > > | > > | > > _______________________________________________ | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list | > > relax-users@domain.hid | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, | > > visit the list information page at | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users | > > | > > From edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Tue Feb 22 17:45:12 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrvMG-0007nX-Dp for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:45:12 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-iw0-f179.google.com ([209.85.214.179]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrvMG-0007ij-4l for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:45:04 +0100 Received: by iwc10 with SMTP id 10so3932346iwc.10 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:44:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lt5s0YD9+juFgaMFekztdeanshJGpwfJcomYTbxXykk=; b=hHm0kMZl71DvvtWwcOAR2IcmltVmiE8aPVPkYaaMiojr0oF98E2OWQj+btqm1jQSK2 6qmoUH+QO9yL16e9qkev31rjiCQOsVOohv3z6Il4f+ql/5w/qdvDcfiTE3ZPZfigptpB VJTQEcVfNW9FbO0MwMs7Z5rEwLDFO7Y2i+OUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=SAkM3kDBRlZf9NhN05CBUrgKEAFBzOpLrUV129MRnjapUr6ZrwrTWU/QoPupDEQZdq aP6TS3vyUDWrbeSVGoOYDpAMxGcrZeiZFFRbrqRLuou0JVQwAyuoKitA90+0ZoxvFMx0 I9jP/A2E6a9HXWD1/32eXSojw6t5vb2RU4myU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.241.70 with SMTP id ld6mr3816947icb.124.1298393081322; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:44:41 -0800 (PST) Sender: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Received: by 10.231.39.141 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:44:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <-2585107616979111554@domain.hid> References: <4878647560192870286@domain.hid> <-2585107616979111554@domain.hid> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:44:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DO8tmawJhYkvrEmV_-weWPFW3IA Message-ID: Subject: Re: ImporError From: "Edward d'Auvergne" To: Min-Kyu Cho Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: relax-users@domain.hid X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:45:12 -0000 Hi, This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should have worked :S Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you type: relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup Do you get something like: relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ImportError: No module named relax_fit relax> Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S Bye, Edward On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho wrote: > Hi, > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0relax 1.3.10 > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Molecular dynamics by NMR data ana= lysis > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auve= rgne > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development= team > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute un= der > the > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). =A0This program, incl= uding > all > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no warranty. > For > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be acces= sed > by > typing 'help' within the prompt. > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the corresponding C > modules have not been compiled. > > Hardware information: > =A0 =A0Machine: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 x86 > =A0 =A0Processor: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepp= ing 6, GenuineIntel > > System information: > =A0 =A0System: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Windows > =A0 =A0Release: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 post2008Server > =A0 =A0Version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 6.1.7600 > =A0 =A0Win32 version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 post2008Server 6.1.7600 =A0Mult= iprocessor Free > =A0 =A0Distribution: > =A0 =A0Full platform string: =A0 =A0Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600 > > Software information: > =A0 =A0Architecture: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A032bit WindowsPE > =A0 =A0Python version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02.6.5 > =A0 =A0Python branch: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 tags/r265 > =A0 =A0Python build: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 21:48= :26 > =A0 =A0Python compiler: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel) > =A0 =A0Python implementation: =A0 CPython > =A0 =A0Python revision: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 79096 > =A0 =A0Numpy version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1.5.1 > =A0 =A0Libc version: > > Python packages (most are optional): > > Package =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Installed =A0 =A0 =A0 Version =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 Path > minfx =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Unknown = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 D:\Programs\relax\minfx > bmrblib =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0False > numpy =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01.5.1 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 C:\Program > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy > ScientificPython =A0 =A0 False > wxPython =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True > mpi4py =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 False > epydoc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 False > optparse =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01.5.3 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 C:\Program > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py > Numeric =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0False > readline =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0C:\Program > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py > profile =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0C:\Program > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py > bz2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0C:\Program > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd > gzip =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0C:\Program > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py > os.devnull =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0C:\Program > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc > > Compiled relax C modules: > =A0 =A0Relaxation curve fitting: False > --- > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I don't need it, = but > will try later with my data. > > Regards, > Min-Kyu > > > +------------------------------+ > Cho, Min-Kyu > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 > Phone: 615-936-3757=A0 /=A0 Fax: 615-936-2211 > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] = On > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > > | > Hi, > | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? =A0Could you run: > | > > | > $ relax --info > | > > | > and copy the result? =A0The problem here is that the C modules for th= e > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is either not compile= d > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your combination of MS > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. =A0It may be that > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which case the 32-bit C > | > module will not work. =A0If you don't need to use this part of relax, > | > you can safely ignore this warning. > | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have created > | > instructions on how to set up a development environment on Windows to > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: > | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html > | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be possible to > | > compile the module. > | > > | > Regards, > | > > | > Edward > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho > | > wrote: > | > > Hi Eddy, > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > I got the following error when I executed =91relax=92 on Window7; > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the > | > corresponding C > | > > module have not been compiled. > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > What should I do? > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > Cheers, > | > > > | > > Min-Kyu > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > _______________________________________________ > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > | > > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list > | > > relax-users@domain.hid > | > > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, > | > > visit the list information page at > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > | > > > | > > > > > _______________________________________________ > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > > This is the relax-users mailing list > relax-users@domain.hid > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > reminder, or change your subscription options, > visit the list information page at > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > From min-kyu.cho@domain.hid Tue Feb 22 18:42:43 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrwFw-0005xE-BB for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:42:43 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,MSGID_MULTIPLE_AT autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from mailgate.vanderbilt.edu ([129.59.15.72]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrwFv-0005wy-Vz for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:42:36 +0100 Received: from its-hcwnem22.ds.vanderbilt.edu ([10.1.137.26]) by mailgate02.its.vanderbilt.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p1MHgB7e026566 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:42:12 -0600 Received: from KIMNCHO (129.59.15.27) by smtpauth.vanderbilt.edu (10.1.137.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.83.0; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:42:12 -0600 From: Min-Kyu Cho To: "'Edward d'Auvergne'" References: <4878647560192870286@domain.hid> <-2585107616979111554@domain.hid> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: ImporError Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:42:12 -0600 Message-ID: <005f01cbd2b7$d6161290$824237b0$@cho@domain.hid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcvSr9c5daA+IU/hTe2C8ZH33dHLPAAB+0TQ Content-Language: ko X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15, 1.0.148, 0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-22_07:2011-02-22, 2011-02-22, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-PPS: No, score=0 Cc: relax-users@domain.hid X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:42:43 -0000 Yes, I got the same error message. Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ImportError: DLL load failed: =EC=A7=80=EC=A0=95=EB=90=9C = =EB=AA=A8=EB=93=88=EC=9D=84 =EC=B0=BE=EC=9D=84 =EC=88=98 = =EC=97=86=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4. =3D=3D> In Korean, "Cannot find = the module". Regards, Min-Kyu +------------------------------+ Cho, Min-Kyu=20 Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > -----Original Message----- | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] = On | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > Subject: Re: ImporError | >=20 | > Hi, | >=20 | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should have worked :S | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you type: | >=20 | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup | >=20 | > Do you get something like: | >=20 | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup | > Traceback (most recent call last): | > File "", line 1, in | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit | > relax> | >=20 | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S | >=20 | > Bye, | >=20 | > Edward | >=20 | >=20 | >=20 | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho | > wrote: | > > Hi, | > > | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: | > > | > > relax 1.3.10 | > > | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis | > > | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team | > > | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and = redistribute | > under | > > the | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program, | > including | > > all | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no | > warranty. | > > For | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. | > > | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can = be | > accessed | > > by | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the | > corresponding C | > > modules have not been compiled. | > > | > > Hardware information: | > > Machine: x86 | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6, | > GenuineIntel | > > | > > System information: | > > System: Windows | > > Release: post2008Server | > > Version: 6.1.7600 | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600 = Multiprocessor Free | > > Distribution: | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600 | > > | > > Software information: | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE | > > Python version: 2.6.5 | > > Python branch: tags/r265 | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 21:48:26 | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel) | > > Python implementation: CPython | > > Python revision: 79096 | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 | > > Libc version: | > > | > > Python packages (most are optional): | > > | > > Package Installed Version Path | > > | > minfx True Unknown = D:\Programs\relax\minfx | > > bmrblib False | > > numpy True 1.5.1 C:\Program | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy | > > ScientificPython False | > > wxPython True | > > mpi4py False | > > epydoc False | > > optparse True 1.5.3 C:\Program | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py | > > Numeric False | > > readline True C:\Program | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py | > > profile True C:\Program | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py | > > bz2 True C:\Program | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd | > > gzip True C:\Program | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py | > > os.devnull True C:\Program | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc | > > | > > Compiled relax C modules: | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False | > > --- | > > | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I don't = need | > it, but | > > will try later with my data. | > > | > > Regards, | > > Min-Kyu | > > | > > | > > +------------------------------+ | > > Cho, Min-Kyu | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > > | > > | > -----Original Message----- | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError | > > | > | > > | > Hi, | > > | > | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run: | > > | > | > > | > $ relax --info | > > | > | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that the C modules = for | > the | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is either not | > compiled | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your combination = of | > MS | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. It may be | > that | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which case the = 32- | > bit C | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use this part of = relax, | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. | > > | > | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have created | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development environment on = Windows | > to | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: | > > | > | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html | > > | > | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be possible = to | > > | > compile the module. | > > | > | > > | > Regards, | > > | > | > > | > Edward | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho kyu.cho@domain.hid> | > > | > wrote: | > > | > > Hi Eddy, | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed = =E2=80=98relax=E2=80=99 on Window7; | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the | > > | > corresponding C | > > | > > module have not been compiled. | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > What should I do? | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > Cheers, | > > | > > | > > | > > Min-Kyu | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > _______________________________________________ | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) | > > | > > | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list | > > | > > relax-users@domain.hid | > > | > > | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password | > > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, | > > | > > visit the list information page at | > > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > _______________________________________________ | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list | > > relax-users@domain.hid | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, | > > visit the list information page at | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users | > > From edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Tue Feb 22 19:03:06 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrwZe-0008Fz-Ia for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:03:06 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-iy0-f179.google.com ([209.85.210.179]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrwZe-0008Ek-AG for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:02:58 +0100 Received: by iym7 with SMTP id 7so1637708iym.10 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:02:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s6xpfHbw57sggdOI9MxmpVMLY7u8AVbL08QhvkN59+g=; b=lYitNONaQeqBzzpOOrxsefwjeIF0WyVdsEvu74EHGKKCyAm/LQsDPk5TYLeE0VLPLQ luLBJNfjghhUMOhRDIge7lqVsPHwpnQexifdiqJ0W0B4VlfCSFb/e/m7sC1B7keuoacO Gat1hiX786DOUT8cmX2qSeE18WkwQAmMhDKuM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=yDcyxJpUmn6yoaaEdYJ6Bt1ChbBaMMTNFvEvcBCm7BmhJ36ioMF6jD+yHy5lNUQ4Sz fkXGaF+cfdHaguBOq3Iz+AgQwil1QR7v6l8veUCtQo4ZInM1puXBKLHNOV+ozKADsEG8 3SNe73f8g6RgCJdxRfUHqZXsdhprerNTegWNg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.167.6 with SMTP id q6mr3923796icy.191.1298397755355; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:02:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Received: by 10.231.39.141 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:02:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <-7380198190319063800@domain.hid> References: <4878647560192870286@domain.hid> <-2585107616979111554@domain.hid> <-7380198190319063800@domain.hid> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:02:35 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: r1rhyiaGTgdKE2MajcuGUqNNtgM Message-ID: Subject: Re: ImporError From: "Edward d'Auvergne" To: Min-Kyu Cho Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: relax-users@domain.hid X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:03:07 -0000 Hi, This message is actually a little different. The DLL load failed message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists but it cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file does not exist. Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't work out if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. I compiled this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a very old 32-bit system, but should still produce things that run on all windows versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be that the numpy versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too new. It could also be the Windows version not being able to run old Windows software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve that for the next version of relax. If it is the Windows version problem, unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that. If this is your own computer and you have administrator access, an option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherwise you could wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, maybe I'll try to upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and make a new zip file for you to test. Regards, Edward On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho wrote: > Yes, I got the same error message. > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > ImportError: DLL load failed: =C1=F6=C1=A4=B5=C8 =B8=F0=B5=E2=C0=BB =C3= =A3=C0=BB =BC=F6 =BE=F8=BD=C0=B4=CF=B4=D9. =3D=3D> In Korean, "Cannot find = the module". > > Regards, > Min-Kyu > > +------------------------------+ > Cho, Min-Kyu > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] = On > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > > | > Hi, > | > > | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should have worked :S > | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you type: > | > > | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup > | > > | > Do you get something like: > | > > | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup > | > Traceback (most recent call last): > | > File "", line 1, in > | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit > | > relax> > | > > | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S > | > > | > Bye, > | > > | > Edward > | > > | > > | > > | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho > | > wrote: > | > > Hi, > | > > > | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: > | > > > | > > relax 1.3.10 > | > > > | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis > | > > > | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne > | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team > | > > > | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistrib= ute > | > under > | > > the > | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program, > | > including > | > > all > | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no > | > warranty. > | > > For > | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. > | > > > | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be > | > accessed > | > > by > | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. > | > > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the > | > corresponding C > | > > modules have not been compiled. > | > > > | > > Hardware information: > | > > Machine: x86 > | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6, > | > GenuineIntel > | > > > | > > System information: > | > > System: Windows > | > > Release: post2008Server > | > > Version: 6.1.7600 > | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600 Multiprocessor= Free > | > > Distribution: > | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600 > | > > > | > > Software information: > | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE > | > > Python version: 2.6.5 > | > > Python branch: tags/r265 > | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 21:48:26 > | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel) > | > > Python implementation: CPython > | > > Python revision: 79096 > | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 > | > > Libc version: > | > > > | > > Python packages (most are optional): > | > > > | > > Package Installed Version Path > | > > > | > minfx True Unknown D:\Programs\rela= x\minfx > | > > bmrblib False > | > > numpy True 1.5.1 C:\Program > | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy > | > > ScientificPython False > | > > wxPython True > | > > mpi4py False > | > > epydoc False > | > > optparse True 1.5.3 C:\Program > | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py > | > > Numeric False > | > > readline True C:\Program > | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py > | > > profile True C:\Program > | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py > | > > bz2 True C:\Program > | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd > | > > gzip True C:\Program > | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py > | > > os.devnull True C:\Program > | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc > | > > > | > > Compiled relax C modules: > | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False > | > > --- > | > > > | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I don't nee= d > | > it, but > | > > will try later with my data. > | > > > | > > Regards, > | > > Min-Kyu > | > > > | > > > | > > +------------------------------+ > | > > Cho, Min-Kyu > | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 > | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > > > | > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM > | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > > | > > | > > | > Hi, > | > > | > > | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from > | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run: > | > > | > > | > > | > $ relax --info > | > > | > > | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that the C modules fo= r > | > the > | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is either not > | > compiled > | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your combination o= f > | > MS > | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. It may be > | > that > | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which case the 32= - > | > bit C > | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use this part of re= lax, > | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. > | > > | > > | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have created > | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development environment on Wind= ows > | > to > | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: > | > > | > > | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html > | > > | > > | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be possible t= o > | > > | > compile the module. > | > > | > > | > > | > Regards, > | > > | > > | > > | > Edward > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > > | > wrote: > | > > | > > Hi Eddy, > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on Window7; > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the > | > > | > corresponding C > | > > | > > module have not been compiled. > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > | > > What should I do? > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > | > > Cheers, > | > > | > > > | > > | > > Min-Kyu > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > | > > _______________________________________________ > | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > | > > | > > > | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list > | > > | > > relax-users@domain.hid > | > > | > > > | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > | > > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, > | > > | > > visit the list information page at > | > > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > _______________________________________________ > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > | > > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list > | > > relax-users@domain.hid > | > > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, > | > > visit the list information page at > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > | > > > > From edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Tue Feb 22 21:58:38 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrzJV-0001Xu-SK for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:58:38 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-iw0-f179.google.com ([209.85.214.179]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrzJV-0001XO-Jv for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:58:29 +0100 Received: by iwc10 with SMTP id 10so4176003iwc.10 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:58:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PBlDLM+LX2bztYELHCfg7cRQJD4B21MVWUoAO36VesI=; b=fDr/BSUOwUzUFSFYrOuF2hoMeaY0wrmtdWlUqYnwoUysMcEwvufvUqulrzstba83Rx JzC/OAkB6SbjQhbPv3jcR5/GUjJlKX7moawtrgPPMjhprC0fEIMQRUcXcMOd01+6T/ae tcpr7DpSzXymUPQuS7Zre7PFAo5vgCuJ1bkRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=pdwVgiwS3aK6qoa38E3hYWAy9IHc7/bCHkE5BgcRwr8uaYiBaeIo0gEvDKrwPghl5n APB1PQz/WHVbiwy5blYNebOjH4YonR6pa7x/UMjl5ODEEt8XC6LdFpq+OzFFEQKCL7ha DI4fNegj2PpGFg2rpqm8cjuWroL4R6UPiLRJg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.179.67 with SMTP id bp3mr4163809icb.57.1298408287322; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:58:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Received: by 10.231.39.141 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:58:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4878647560192870286@domain.hid> <-2585107616979111554@domain.hid> <-7380198190319063800@domain.hid> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:58:07 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Yc8K8XUqWihMGQTlwK6owUo2uQw Message-ID: Subject: Re: ImporError From: "Edward d'Auvergne" To: Min-Kyu Cho Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: relax-users@domain.hid X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:58:38 -0000 Hi, I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit Windows building environment and made a new distribution archive for relax 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download location: http://download.gna.org/relax/ The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. Hopefully this one works! Regards, Edward 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : > Hi, > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL load failed > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists but it > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file does not exist. > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't work out > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. I compiled > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a very old 32-bit > system, but should still produce things that run on all windows > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be that the numpy > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too new. It > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old Windows > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve that for > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows version problem, > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that. > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator access, an > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherwise you could > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, maybe I'll try to > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and make a new > zip file for you to test. > > Regards, > > Edward > > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho wrote= : >> Yes, I got the same error message. >> >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "", line 1, in >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =C1=F6=C1=A4=B5=C8 =B8=F0=B5=E2=C0=BB =C3= =A3=C0=BB =BC=F6 =BE=F8=BD=C0=B4=CF=B4=D9. =3D=3D> In Korean, "Cannot find = the module". >> >> Regards, >> Min-Kyu >> >> +------------------------------+ >> Cho, Min-Kyu >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 >> >> >> | > -----Original Message----- >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid]= On >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError >> | > >> | > Hi, >> | > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should have worked :S >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you type: >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup >> | > >> | > Do you get something like: >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): >> | > File "", line 1, in >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit >> | > relax> >> | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S >> | > >> | > Bye, >> | > >> | > Edward >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho >> | > wrote: >> | > > Hi, >> | > > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: >> | > > >> | > > relax 1.3.10 >> | > > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis >> | > > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team >> | > > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistri= bute >> | > under >> | > > the >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program, >> | > including >> | > > all >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no >> | > warranty. >> | > > For >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. >> | > > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can b= e >> | > accessed >> | > > by >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. >> | > > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the >> | > corresponding C >> | > > modules have not been compiled. >> | > > >> | > > Hardware information: >> | > > Machine: x86 >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6, >> | > GenuineIntel >> | > > >> | > > System information: >> | > > System: Windows >> | > > Release: post2008Server >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600 >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600 Multiprocesso= r Free >> | > > Distribution: >> | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600 >> | > > >> | > > Software information: >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5 >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265 >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 21:48:26 >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel) >> | > > Python implementation: CPython >> | > > Python revision: 79096 >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 >> | > > Libc version: >> | > > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): >> | > > >> | > > Package Installed Version Path >> | > > >> | > minfx True Unknown D:\Programs\rel= ax\minfx >> | > > bmrblib False >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1 C:\Program >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy >> | > > ScientificPython False >> | > > wxPython True >> | > > mpi4py False >> | > > epydoc False >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3 C:\Program >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py >> | > > Numeric False >> | > > readline True C:\Program >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py >> | > > profile True C:\Program >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py >> | > > bz2 True C:\Program >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd >> | > > gzip True C:\Program >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py >> | > > os.devnull True C:\Program >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc >> | > > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False >> | > > --- >> | > > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I don't ne= ed >> | > it, but >> | > > will try later with my data. >> | > > >> | > > Regards, >> | > > Min-Kyu >> | > > >> | > > >> | > > +------------------------------+ >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 >> | > > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError >> | > > | > >> | > > | > Hi, >> | > > | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run: >> | > > | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info >> | > > | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that the C modules f= or >> | > the >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is either not >> | > compiled >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your combination = of >> | > MS >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. It may be >> | > that >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which case the 3= 2- >> | > bit C >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use this part of r= elax, >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. >> | > > | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have created >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development environment on Win= dows >> | > to >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: >> | > > | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html >> | > > | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be possible = to >> | > > | > compile the module. >> | > > | > >> | > > | > Regards, >> | > > | > >> | > > | > Edward >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho > | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> >> | > > | > wrote: >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on Window7= ; >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the >> | > > | > corresponding C >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled. >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > What should I do? >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > Cheers, >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > Min-Kyu >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > _______________________________________________ >> | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list >> | > > | > > relax-users@domain.hid >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> | > > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, >> | > > | > > visit the list information page at >> | > > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> | > > | > > >> | > > | > > >> | > > >> | > > >> | > > _______________________________________________ >> | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> | > > >> | > > This is the relax-users mailing list >> | > > relax-users@domain.hid >> | > > >> | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, >> | > > visit the list information page at >> | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> | > > >> >> > From min-kyu.cho@domain.hid Tue Feb 22 22:30:38 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrzoV-0005jd-Jo for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:30:38 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,MSGID_MULTIPLE_AT autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from mailgate.vanderbilt.edu ([129.59.15.72]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PrzoV-0005jR-7e for relax-users@domain.hid; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:30:31 +0100 Received: from its-hcwnem22.ds.vanderbilt.edu ([10.1.137.28]) by mailgate03.its.vanderbilt.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p1MLU5wA000476 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:30:05 -0600 Received: from KIMNCHO (129.59.15.27) by smtpauth.vanderbilt.edu (10.1.137.28) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.83.0; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:30:07 -0600 From: Min-Kyu Cho To: "'Edward d'Auvergne'" References: <4878647560192870286@domain.hid> <-2585107616979111554@domain.hid> <-7380198190319063800@domain.hid> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: ImporError Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:30:06 -0600 Message-ID: <007401cbd2d7$ac9b94b0$05d2be10$@cho@domain.hid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcvS0z5F20F6njtnT7SU9tt0UJWUnAABD82w Content-Language: ko X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15, 1.0.148, 0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-22_09:2011-02-22, 2011-02-22, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-PPS: No, score=0 Cc: relax-users@domain.hid X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:30:38 -0000 Hi, I tried and got this error; relax 1.3.10 Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute = under the conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program, = including all modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no = warranty. For details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be = accessed by typing 'help' within the prompt. ImportError: DLL load failed: =EC=A7=80=EC=A0=95=EB=90=9C = =EB=AA=A8=EB=93=88=EC=9D=84 =EC=B0=BE=EC=9D=84 =EC=88=98 = =EC=97=86=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4. (=3D Cannot find the specified = module). Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C modules. relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ImportError: No module named realx_fit ------------------------------------ But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got the same = error you showed me previously. Regards, Min-Kyu +------------------------------+ Cho, Min-Kyu=20 Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > -----Original Message----- | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] = On | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > Subject: Re: ImporError | >=20 | > Hi, | >=20 | > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit Windows | > building environment and made a new distribution archive for relax | > 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download location: | >=20 | > http://download.gna.org/relax/ | >=20 | > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. Hopefully this one | > works! | >=20 | > Regards, | >=20 | > Edward | >=20 | >=20 | >=20 | > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : | > > Hi, | > > | > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL load failed | > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists but = it | > > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file does not exist. | > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't work = out | > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. I = compiled | > > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a very old 32-bit | > > system, but should still produce things that run on all windows | > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be that the = numpy | > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too new. = It | > > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old = Windows | > > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve that = for | > > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows version problem, | > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that. | > > | > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator access, an | > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ | > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherwise you = could | > > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, maybe I'll = try to | > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and make a = new | > > zip file for you to test. | > > | > > Regards, | > > | > > Edward | > > | > > | > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho = | > wrote: | > >> Yes, I got the same error message. | > >> | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): | > >> File "", line 1, in | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =EC=A7=80=EC=A0=95=EB=90=9C = =EB=AA=A8=EB=93=88=EC=9D=84 =EC=B0=BE=EC=9D=84 =EC=88=98 = =EC=97=86=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4. =3D=3D> In Korean, | > "Cannot find the module". | > >> | > >> Regards, | > >> Min-Kyu | > >> | > >> +------------------------------+ | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN = 37232-8725 | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > >> | > >> | > >> | > -----Original Message----- | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError | > >> | > | > >> | > Hi, | > >> | > | > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should have | > worked :S | > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you type: | > >> | > | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup | > >> | > | > >> | > Do you get something like: | > >> | > | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup | > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): | > >> | > File "", line 1, in | > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit | > >> | > relax> | > >> | > | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S | > >> | > | > >> | > Bye, | > >> | > | > >> | > Edward | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho kyu.cho@domain.hid> | > >> | > wrote: | > >> | > > Hi, | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: | > >> | > > | > >> | > > relax 1.3.10 | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development = team | > >> | > > | > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and | > redistribute | > >> | > under | > >> | > > the | > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This | > program, | > >> | > including | > >> | > > all | > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with = absolutely no | > >> | > warranty. | > >> | > > For | > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting = interface | > can be | > >> | > accessed | > >> | > > by | > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. | > >> | > > | > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the | > >> | > corresponding C | > >> | > > modules have not been compiled. | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Hardware information: | > >> | > > Machine: x86 | > >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping = 6, | > >> | > GenuineIntel | > >> | > > | > >> | > > System information: | > >> | > > System: Windows | > >> | > > Release: post2008Server | > >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600 | > >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600 = Multiprocessor | > Free | > >> | > > Distribution: | > >> | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600 | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Software information: | > >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE | > >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5 | > >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265 | > >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 = 21:48:26 | > >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel) | > >> | > > Python implementation: CPython | > >> | > > Python revision: 79096 | > >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 | > >> | > > Libc version: | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Package Installed Version Path | > >> | > > | > >> | > minfx True Unknown | > D:\Programs\relax\minfx | > >> | > > bmrblib False | > >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1 = C:\Program | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy | > >> | > > ScientificPython False | > >> | > > wxPython True | > >> | > > mpi4py False | > >> | > > epydoc False | > >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3 = C:\Program | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py | > >> | > > Numeric False | > >> | > > readline True = C:\Program | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py | > >> | > > profile True = C:\Program | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py | > >> | > > bz2 True = C:\Program | > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd | > >> | > > gzip True = C:\Program | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py | > >> | > > os.devnull True = C:\Program | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: | > >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False | > >> | > > --- | > >> | > > | > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I = don't | > need | > >> | > it, but | > >> | > > will try later with my data. | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Regards, | > >> | > > Min-Kyu | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > +------------------------------+ | > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu | > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. | > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN = 37232- | > 8725 | > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- | > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On | > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM | > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > Hi, | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run: | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that the C | > modules for | > >> | > the | > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is = either | > not | > >> | > compiled | > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your | > combination of | > >> | > MS | > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. It = may | > be | > >> | > that | > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which = case | > the 32- | > >> | > bit C | > >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use this = part | > of relax, | > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have | > created | > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development environment = on | > Windows | > >> | > to | > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be | > possible to | > >> | > > | > compile the module. | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > Regards, | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > Edward | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> | > >> | > > | > wrote: | > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on | > Window7; | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, = the | > >> | > > | > corresponding C | > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled. | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > What should I do? | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > Cheers, | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > Min-Kyu | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > _______________________________________________ | > >> | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list | > >> | > > | > > relax-users@domain.hid | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password | > >> | > > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, | > >> | > > | > > visit the list information page at | > >> | > > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > _______________________________________________ | > >> | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) | > >> | > > | > >> | > > This is the relax-users mailing list | > >> | > > relax-users@domain.hid | > >> | > > | > >> | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password | > >> | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, | > >> | > > visit the list information page at | > >> | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > From M.Strickland@domain.hid Wed Feb 23 11:05:05 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsBab-0005Tc-6L for relax-users@domain.hid; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:05:05 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_20,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.102]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsBab-0005SD-56 for relax-users@domain.hid; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:04:57 +0100 Received: from chico.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.178]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PsBa5-0001YM-8p for relax-users@domain.hid; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:04:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=webmail.bris.ac.uk) by chico.bris.ac.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PsBa4-00033d-Vz for relax-users@domain.hid; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:04:25 +0000 Received: from 137.222.43.71 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ms4225) by webmail.bris.ac.uk with HTTP; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:04:24 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <39940.137.222.43.71.1298455464.squirrel@domain.hid> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:04:24 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Binding studies From: "Maddy Strickland" To: relax-users@domain.hid User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:36:17 +0100 X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:05:05 -0000 Hi everyone, I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I've already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. I was wondering if I added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the new relaxation data? Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequences etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? It's a fairly strong binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a sphere... What do you all think? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:12:13 -0000 Hi, This is very puzzling :S I will install Python 2.6 and make a new distribution archive. Bye, Edward On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho wrote: > Hi, > > I tried and got this error; > > > relax 1.3.10 > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute un= der the > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program, includ= ing all > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no warranty.= For > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be acces= sed by > typing 'help' within the prompt. > > ImportError: DLL load failed: =C1=F6=C1=A4=B5=C8 =B8=F0=B5=E2=C0=BB =C3= =A3=C0=BB =BC=F6 =BE=F8=BD=C0=B4=CF=B4=D9. (=3D Cannot find the specified m= odule). > Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C modules. > > relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > ImportError: No module named realx_fit > > ------------------------------------ > But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got the same err= or you showed me previously. > > Regards, > Min-Kyu > > +------------------------------+ > Cho, Min-Kyu > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] = On > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > > | > Hi, > | > > | > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit Windows > | > building environment and made a new distribution archive for relax > | > 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download location: > | > > | > http://download.gna.org/relax/ > | > > | > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. Hopefully this one > | > works! > | > > | > Regards, > | > > | > Edward > | > > | > > | > > | > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : > | > > Hi, > | > > > | > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL load failed > | > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists but it > | > > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file does not exist. > | > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't work o= ut > | > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. I compil= ed > | > > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a very old 32-bit > | > > system, but should still produce things that run on all windows > | > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be that the num= py > | > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too new. = It > | > > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old Windows > | > > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve that fo= r > | > > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows version problem, > | > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that. > | > > > | > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator access, an > | > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ > | > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherwise you could > | > > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, maybe I'll try= to > | > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and make a n= ew > | > > zip file for you to test. > | > > > | > > Regards, > | > > > | > > Edward > | > > > | > > > | > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho > | > wrote: > | > >> Yes, I got the same error message. > | > >> > | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): > | > >> File "", line 1, in > | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =C1=F6=C1=A4=B5=C8 =B8=F0=B5=E2=C0= =BB =C3=A3=C0=BB =BC=F6 =BE=F8=BD=C0=B4=CF=B4=D9. =3D=3D> In Korean, > | > "Cannot find the module". > | > >> > | > >> Regards, > | > >> Min-Kyu > | > >> > | > >> +------------------------------+ > | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 > | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> | > -----Original Message----- > | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM > | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Hi, > | > >> | > > | > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should have > | > worked :S > | > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you type: > | > >> | > > | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Do you get something like: > | > >> | > > | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup > | > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): > | > >> | > File "", line 1, in > | > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit > | > >> | > relax> > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Bye, > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Edward > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > >> | > wrote: > | > >> | > > Hi, > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > relax 1.3.10 > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne > | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development = team > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and > | > redistribute > | > >> | > under > | > >> | > > the > | > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This > | > program, > | > >> | > including > | > >> | > > all > | > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely= no > | > >> | > warranty. > | > >> | > > For > | > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface > | > can be > | > >> | > accessed > | > >> | > > by > | > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the > | > >> | > corresponding C > | > >> | > > modules have not been compiled. > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Hardware information: > | > >> | > > Machine: x86 > | > >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6= , > | > >> | > GenuineIntel > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > System information: > | > >> | > > System: Windows > | > >> | > > Release: post2008Server > | > >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600 > | > >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600 Multipr= ocessor > | > Free > | > >> | > > Distribution: > | > >> | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600 > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Software information: > | > >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE > | > >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5 > | > >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265 > | > >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 21:48:26 > | > >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel) > | > >> | > > Python implementation: CPython > | > >> | > > Python revision: 79096 > | > >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 > | > >> | > > Libc version: > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Package Installed Version Path > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > minfx True Unknown > | > D:\Programs\relax\minfx > | > >> | > > bmrblib False > | > >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1 C:\Prog= ram > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy > | > >> | > > ScientificPython False > | > >> | > > wxPython True > | > >> | > > mpi4py False > | > >> | > > epydoc False > | > >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3 C:\Prog= ram > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py > | > >> | > > Numeric False > | > >> | > > readline True C:\Prog= ram > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py > | > >> | > > profile True C:\Prog= ram > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py > | > >> | > > bz2 True C:\Prog= ram > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd > | > >> | > > gzip True C:\Prog= ram > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py > | > >> | > > os.devnull True C:\Prog= ram > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: > | > >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False > | > >> | > > --- > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I do= n't > | > need > | > >> | > it, but > | > >> | > > will try later with my data. > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Regards, > | > >> | > > Min-Kyu > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > +------------------------------+ > | > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 3723= 2- > | > 8725 > | > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM > | > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > Hi, > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from > | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run: > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that the C > | > modules for > | > >> | > the > | > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is eithe= r > | > not > | > >> | > compiled > | > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your > | > combination of > | > >> | > MS > | > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. It = may > | > be > | > >> | > that > | > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which case > | > the 32- > | > >> | > bit C > | > >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use this par= t > | > of relax, > | > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have > | > created > | > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development environment = on > | > Windows > | > >> | > to > | > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be > | > possible to > | > >> | > > | > compile the module. > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > Regards, > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > Edward > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > >> | > > | > wrote: > | > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on > | > Window7; > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, = the > | > >> | > > | > corresponding C > | > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled. > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > What should I do? > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > Cheers, > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > Min-Kyu > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > _______________________________________________ > | > >> | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list > | > >> | > > | > > relax-users@domain.hid > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > | > >> | > > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, > | > >> | > > | > > visit the list information page at > | > >> | > > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > _______________________________________________ > | > >> | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > This is the relax-users mailing list > | > >> | > > relax-users@domain.hid > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > | > >> | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, > | > >> | > > visit the list information page at > | > >> | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > | > >> | > > > | > >> > | > >> > | > > > > > _______________________________________________ > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > > This is the relax-users mailing list > relax-users@domain.hid > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > reminder, or change your subscription options, > visit the list information page at > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > From edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Thu Feb 24 10:46:10 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsXlp-0003P4-Po for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:46:10 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-iw0-f179.google.com ([209.85.214.179]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsXlp-0003Ok-K3 for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:46:01 +0100 Received: by iwc10 with SMTP id 10so200581iwc.10 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:45:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3o0RgToGANwC9bMv1M9lt6vT1W6Xf14//qgsh5HyE9A=; b=RiONAyhxiI5kekSpb6v2A32JxafpHYPVIceo0sqXJfrqimVCzBST9dJUjgCFzs3Ypk ZLR80dWlruFov2v95dNVSj712Z9yzCEzTvig6+ZPCGDHVqeNoC/o8ZPIPmoXOg+MK0iB 8sPThRkpROw0QGsqg0LcsTFidAzN8hvgjC/xE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=S2EwYFkhQY83MzUnyAIn35MW6Pt4JSHwRt1g7d8RwyLq9YkO4GSvbyVSccJ5L/20Z7 OeBU1c3W334t+fHinTEkDl9kPUQgLQgXvTDdJWziDTUwOmysafxjBp4RsdmiDeyicGg2 BK7+QcWJVve74Vk82ul6rwOwrFFXF9dQ5wjbo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.200.145 with SMTP id ew17mr1051444ibb.160.1298540739145; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:45:39 -0800 (PST) Sender: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Received: by 10.231.207.15 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:45:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <39940.137.222.43.71.1298455464.squirrel@domain.hid> References: <39940.137.222.43.71.1298455464.squirrel@domain.hid> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:45:39 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PLBd7Sv1GkY2DZLILc8P6f9_KI0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Binding studies From: "Edward d'Auvergne" To: Maddy Strickland Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: relax-users@domain.hid, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_M?= X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:46:10 -0000 Hi, This can be tricky. Can you estimate the percentage of monomer verses dimer? Can you also estimate the amount of time the peptide binds to the receptor? Do you have binding data for the NMR sample conditions? If the more than 90% of the receptor is bound to the peptide and the time bound to the receptor is significant, then you should be able to handle this with standard model-free analysis using a single diffusion tensor. This will likely require data at 2 or more field strengths. Seb, have you worked with this situation? Regards, Edward On 23 February 2011 11:04, Maddy Strickland wr= ote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I've > already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. =A0I was wondering if = I > added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the > new relaxation data? =A0Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequence= s > etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? =A0It's a fairly strong > binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a > sphere... =A0What do you all think? > > > Madeleine Strickland > > > > _______________________________________________ > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > > This is the relax-users mailing list > relax-users@domain.hid > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > reminder, or change your subscription options, > visit the list information page at > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > From sebastien.morin.1@domain.hid Thu Feb 24 11:14:12 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsYCy-0006hj-QI for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:14:12 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.6 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp1.unibas.ch ([131.152.227.80]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsYCy-0006gU-Ou for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:14:04 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,215,1297033200"; d="scan'208";a="126569199" Received: from bioz3-nmrm15.bioz.unibas.ch ([131.152.19.195]) by smtp-ext.unibas.ch with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA; 24 Feb 2011 11:13:42 +0100 Message-ID: <4D662F55.2040609@domain.hid> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:13:41 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_Morin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edward d'Auvergne Subject: Re: Binding studies References: <39940.137.222.43.71.1298455464.squirrel@domain.hid> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Maddy Strickland , "relax-users@domain.hid" , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_M?= X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:14:12 -0000 Hi, I have not worked with this situation. However, I agree that binding kinetics should be known (on and off rates) and a majority of bound complex should exist over time, otherwise the situation might be tricky since some contribution from unbound protein might arise (with a shorter correlation time, and potentially different dynamics). Also, contribution from potential conformational exchange caused by binding and unbinding of the ligand (depending on the exchange rate, i.e. on and off rates), rather than 'real' changes in dynamics on the protein, could complicate analysis and give a false impression of changes in the protein dynamics. I hope this helps. Best regards, Séb :) On 11-02-24 10:45 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote: > Hi, > > This can be tricky. Can you estimate the percentage of monomer verses > dimer? Can you also estimate the amount of time the peptide binds to > the receptor? Do you have binding data for the NMR sample conditions? > If the more than 90% of the receptor is bound to the peptide and the > time bound to the receptor is significant, then you should be able to > handle this with standard model-free analysis using a single diffusion > tensor. This will likely require data at 2 or more field strengths. > Seb, have you worked with this situation? > > Regards, > > Edward > > > On 23 February 2011 11:04, Maddy Strickland wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I've >> already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. I was wondering if I >> added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the >> new relaxation data? Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequences >> etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? It's a fairly strong >> binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a >> sphere... What do you all think? >> >> >> Madeleine Strickland >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> >> This is the relax-users mailing list >> relax-users@domain.hid >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> reminder, or change your subscription options, >> visit the list information page at >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> -- Sébastien Morin, Ph.D. Postdoctoral fellow S. Grzesiek NMR Laboratory Biozentrum, Universität Basel Basel, Switzerland From edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Thu Feb 24 11:53:45 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsYpF-0002Xg-Dd for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:53:45 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-iw0-f179.google.com ([209.85.214.179]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsYpF-0002XL-2C for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:53:37 +0100 Received: by iwc10 with SMTP id 10so226933iwc.10 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:53:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DdGMn6QP0/uaoEP8UqPnUogAvGXU7TyTGdl2rW5SAT4=; b=YuMmn/pNDEsUOWMZOoKHQIvrRf6GMcvYGmxlNoKzA1iGHlu4Z0TtDriGzYZVHrmol/ ADzEOUaFCCIaiU9O3KC/nc0FtmaYOt3rqkk7koBR7bOZN5h0DxLumQ0jUOo+NyAnwGwO MRN5fjKrXq13myWCMdyjcMZNG1ykUNkhnskp8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Bg1b4Z+3PsLL0XYD1LHB3eh/+ZqCVtprGiZT8DjSqoMIWfzrjT6wSlyd5EhF7nBmPt cCLhLWvLJPwtfnst+OxfYufvjh+Lf/gwvfQJPZ23U7sOMj6GXcEMbe0GixI6yiIX7C0j 1zhiIqh4MBIDkxgn2J88wMLzZNU55u+c3KQ1Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.32.130 with SMTP id c2mr1212535ibd.35.1298544794505; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:53:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Received: by 10.231.207.15 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:53:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4878647560192870286@domain.hid> <-2585107616979111554@domain.hid> <-7380198190319063800@domain.hid> <-6500117405360917252@domain.hid> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:53:14 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: A_sy9xW-7NP9kHARk5lZmmIVjyQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: ImporError From: "Edward d'Auvergne" To: Min-Kyu Cho Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: relax-users@domain.hid X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:53:45 -0000 Hi, I've now build the C modules using Python 2.6.6 with numpy 1.5.1, on MS Windows 2000. The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py26.zip and you can find it at http://download.gna.org/relax. Could you test this one out? Cheers, Edward 2011/2/24 Edward d'Auvergne : > Hi, > > This is very puzzling :S I will install Python 2.6 and make a new > distribution archive. > > Bye, > > Edward > > > On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho wrote= : >> Hi, >> >> I tried and got this error; >> >> >> relax 1.3.10 >> >> Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis >> >> Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne >> Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team >> >> This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute u= nder the >> conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program, inclu= ding all >> modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no warranty= . For >> details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. >> >> Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be acce= ssed by >> typing 'help' within the prompt. >> >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =C1=F6=C1=A4=B5=C8 =B8=F0=B5=E2=C0=BB =C3= =A3=C0=BB =BC=F6 =BE=F8=BD=C0=B4=CF=B4=D9. (=3D Cannot find the specified m= odule). >> Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C modules. >> >> relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "", line 1, in >> ImportError: No module named realx_fit >> >> ------------------------------------ >> But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got the same er= ror you showed me previously. >> >> Regards, >> Min-Kyu >> >> +------------------------------+ >> Cho, Min-Kyu >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 >> >> >> | > -----Original Message----- >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid]= On >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError >> | > >> | > Hi, >> | > >> | > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit Windows >> | > building environment and made a new distribution archive for relax >> | > 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download location: >> | > >> | > http://download.gna.org/relax/ >> | > >> | > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. Hopefully this one >> | > works! >> | > >> | > Regards, >> | > >> | > Edward >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : >> | > > Hi, >> | > > >> | > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL load failed >> | > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists but i= t >> | > > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file does not exist. >> | > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't work = out >> | > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. I compi= led >> | > > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a very old 32-bit >> | > > system, but should still produce things that run on all windows >> | > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be that the nu= mpy >> | > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too new. = It >> | > > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old Window= s >> | > > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve that f= or >> | > > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows version problem, >> | > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that. >> | > > >> | > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator access, an >> | > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ >> | > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherwise you coul= d >> | > > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, maybe I'll tr= y to >> | > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and make a = new >> | > > zip file for you to test. >> | > > >> | > > Regards, >> | > > >> | > > Edward >> | > > >> | > > >> | > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho >> | > wrote: >> | > >> Yes, I got the same error message. >> | > >> >> | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> | > >> File "", line 1, in >> | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =C1=F6=C1=A4=B5=C8 =B8=F0=B5=E2=C0= =BB =C3=A3=C0=BB =BC=F6 =BE=F8=BD=C0=B4=CF=B4=D9. =3D=3D> In Korean, >> | > "Cannot find the module". >> | > >> >> | > >> Regards, >> | > >> Min-Kyu >> | > >> >> | > >> +------------------------------+ >> | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >> | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-872= 5 >> | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 >> | > >> >> | > >> >> | > >> | > -----Original Message----- >> | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On >> | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >> | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM >> | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Hi, >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should have >> | > worked :S >> | > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you type: >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Do you get something like: >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup >> | > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): >> | > >> | > File "", line 1, in >> | > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit >> | > >> | > relax> >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Bye, >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Edward >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho > | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> >> | > >> | > wrote: >> | > >> | > > Hi, >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > relax 1.3.10 >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development= team >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and >> | > redistribute >> | > >> | > under >> | > >> | > > the >> | > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This >> | > program, >> | > >> | > including >> | > >> | > > all >> | > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutel= y no >> | > >> | > warranty. >> | > >> | > > For >> | > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interfac= e >> | > can be >> | > >> | > accessed >> | > >> | > > by >> | > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the >> | > >> | > corresponding C >> | > >> | > > modules have not been compiled. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Hardware information: >> | > >> | > > Machine: x86 >> | > >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping = 6, >> | > >> | > GenuineIntel >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > System information: >> | > >> | > > System: Windows >> | > >> | > > Release: post2008Server >> | > >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600 >> | > >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600 Multip= rocessor >> | > Free >> | > >> | > > Distribution: >> | > >> | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600 >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Software information: >> | > >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE >> | > >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5 >> | > >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265 >> | > >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 21:48:2= 6 >> | > >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel) >> | > >> | > > Python implementation: CPython >> | > >> | > > Python revision: 79096 >> | > >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 >> | > >> | > > Libc version: >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Package Installed Version Path >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > minfx True Unknown >> | > D:\Programs\relax\minfx >> | > >> | > > bmrblib False >> | > >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1 C:\Pro= gram >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy >> | > >> | > > ScientificPython False >> | > >> | > > wxPython True >> | > >> | > > mpi4py False >> | > >> | > > epydoc False >> | > >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3 C:\Pro= gram >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py >> | > >> | > > Numeric False >> | > >> | > > readline True C:\Pro= gram >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py >> | > >> | > > profile True C:\Pro= gram >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py >> | > >> | > > bz2 True C:\Pro= gram >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd >> | > >> | > > gzip True C:\Pro= gram >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py >> | > >> | > > os.devnull True C:\Pro= gram >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: >> | > >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False >> | > >> | > > --- >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I d= on't >> | > need >> | > >> | > it, but >> | > >> | > > will try later with my data. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Regards, >> | > >> | > > Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > +------------------------------+ >> | > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >> | > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 372= 32- >> | > 8725 >> | > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- >> | > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid >> | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On >> | > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >> | > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM >> | > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Hi, >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run: >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that the C >> | > modules for >> | > >> | > the >> | > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is eith= er >> | > not >> | > >> | > compiled >> | > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your >> | > combination of >> | > >> | > MS >> | > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. It= may >> | > be >> | > >> | > that >> | > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which cas= e >> | > the 32- >> | > >> | > bit C >> | > >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use this pa= rt >> | > of relax, >> | > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have >> | > created >> | > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development environment= on >> | > Windows >> | > >> | > to >> | > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be >> | > possible to >> | > >> | > > | > compile the module. >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Regards, >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Edward >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho > | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> >> | > >> | > > | > wrote: >> | > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on >> | > Window7; >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable,= the >> | > >> | > > | > corresponding C >> | > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled. >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > What should I do? >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > Cheers, >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > _______________________________________________ >> | > >> | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list >> | > >> | > > | > > relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> | > >> | > > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, >> | > >> | > > | > > visit the list information page at >> | > >> | > > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > _______________________________________________ >> | > >> | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > This is the relax-users mailing list >> | > >> | > > relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> | > >> | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, >> | > >> | > > visit the list information page at >> | > >> | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> >> | > >> >> | > > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> >> This is the relax-users mailing list >> relax-users@domain.hid >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> reminder, or change your subscription options, >> visit the list information page at >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> > From sebastien.morin.1@domain.hid Thu Feb 24 12:01:36 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsYwq-0003xD-MN for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:01:36 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_HEADERS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp1.unibas.ch ([131.152.227.80]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsYwq-0003wf-K9 for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:01:28 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,215,1297033200"; d="scan'208";a="126581041" Received: from bioz3-nmrm15.bioz.unibas.ch ([131.152.19.195]) by smtp-ext.unibas.ch with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA; 24 Feb 2011 12:01:07 +0100 Message-ID: <4D663A72.9000404@domain.hid> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:01:06 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_Morin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Binding studies References: <39940.137.222.43.71.1298455464.squirrel@domain.hid> <4D662F55.2040609@domain.hid> In-Reply-To: <4D662F55.2040609@domain.hid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M?= , Maddy Strickland , Edward d'Auvergne , "relax-users@domain.hid" , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_?= X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:01:36 -0000 Hi again, One last comment: Is the KD known ? If yes, than the population of bound complex can be calculated from the following relation: Bound = ( [Ligand] ) / ( KD + [Ligand] ) For example, with a KD of 100 uM (0.1 mM), a concentration of ligand of 1 mM (matched with a protein concentration smaller or equal to 1 mM) would yield a steady-state bound population of ~91% (0.91). Cheers, Séb :) On 11-02-24 11:13 AM, Sébastien Morin wrote: > Hi, > > I have not worked with this situation. > > However, I agree that binding kinetics should be known (on and off > rates) and a majority of bound complex should exist over time, > otherwise the situation might be tricky since some contribution from > unbound protein might arise (with a shorter correlation time, and > potentially different dynamics). Also, contribution from potential > conformational exchange caused by binding and unbinding of the ligand > (depending on the exchange rate, i.e. on and off rates), rather than > 'real' changes in dynamics on the protein, could complicate analysis > and give a false impression of changes in the protein dynamics. > > I hope this helps. > > Best regards, > > > Séb :) > > > On 11-02-24 10:45 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This can be tricky. Can you estimate the percentage of monomer verses >> dimer? Can you also estimate the amount of time the peptide binds to >> the receptor? Do you have binding data for the NMR sample conditions? >> If the more than 90% of the receptor is bound to the peptide and the >> time bound to the receptor is significant, then you should be able to >> handle this with standard model-free analysis using a single diffusion >> tensor. This will likely require data at 2 or more field strengths. >> Seb, have you worked with this situation? >> >> Regards, >> >> Edward >> >> >> On 23 February 2011 11:04, Maddy >> Strickland wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which >>> I've >>> already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. I was wondering >>> if I >>> added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the >>> new relaxation data? Can I still use Relax and the same pulse >>> sequences >>> etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? It's a fairly strong >>> binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a >>> sphere... 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:36:59 -0000 Yes! It doesn't show any error message! For information, my laptop has Window7 Home Premium on Intel 32bit dual = core.=20 Thanks Eddy! Min-Kyu +------------------------------+ Cho, Min-Kyu=20 Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > -----Original Message----- | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] = On | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:53 AM | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > Subject: Re: ImporError | >=20 | > Hi, | >=20 | > I've now build the C modules using Python 2.6.6 with numpy 1.5.1, on | > MS Windows 2000. The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py26.zip and | > you can find it at http://download.gna.org/relax. Could you test = this | > one out? | >=20 | > Cheers, | >=20 | > Edward | >=20 | >=20 | > 2011/2/24 Edward d'Auvergne : | > > Hi, | > > | > > This is very puzzling :S I will install Python 2.6 and make a new | > > distribution archive. | > > | > > Bye, | > > | > > Edward | > > | > > | > > On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho = | > wrote: | > >> Hi, | > >> | > >> I tried and got this error; | > >> | > >> | > >> relax 1.3.10 | > >> | > >> Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis | > >> | > >> Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne | > >> Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team | > >> | > >> This is free software which you are welcome to modify and | > redistribute under the | > >> conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This = program, | > including all | > >> modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no | > warranty. For | > >> details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. | > >> | > >> Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can = be | > accessed by | > >> typing 'help' within the prompt. | > >> | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =EC=A7=80=EC=A0=95=EB=90=9C = =EB=AA=A8=EB=93=88=EC=9D=84 =EC=B0=BE=EC=9D=84 =EC=88=98 = =EC=97=86=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4. (=3D Cannot | > find the specified module). | > >> Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C = modules. | > >> | > >> relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): | > >> File "", line 1, in | > >> ImportError: No module named realx_fit | > >> | > >> ------------------------------------ | > >> But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got the = same | > error you showed me previously. | > >> | > >> Regards, | > >> Min-Kyu | > >> | > >> +------------------------------+ | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN = 37232-8725 | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > >> | > >> | > >> | > -----Original Message----- | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError | > >> | > | > >> | > Hi, | > >> | > | > >> | > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit = Windows | > >> | > building environment and made a new distribution archive for | > relax | > >> | > 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download location: | > >> | > | > >> | > http://download.gna.org/relax/ | > >> | > | > >> | > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. Hopefully = this | > one | > >> | > works! | > >> | > | > >> | > Regards, | > >> | > | > >> | > Edward | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : | > >> | > > Hi, | > >> | > > | > >> | > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL load | > failed | > >> | > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) = exists | > but it | > >> | > > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file does not | > exist. | > >> | > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I = can't | > work out | > >> | > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. = I | > compiled | > >> | > > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a very old = 32- | > bit | > >> | > > system, but should still produce things that run on all = windows | > >> | > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be that = the | > numpy | > >> | > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is = too | > new. It | > >> | > > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old | > Windows | > >> | > > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve | > that for | > >> | > > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows version | > problem, | > >> | > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that. | > >> | > > | > >> | > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator = access, | > an | > >> | > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ | > >> | > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherwise = you | > could | > >> | > > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, maybe = I'll | > try to | > >> | > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and = make | > a new | > >> | > > zip file for you to test. | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Regards, | > >> | > > | > >> | > > Edward | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho kyu.cho@domain.hid> | > >> | > wrote: | > >> | > >> Yes, I got the same error message. | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): | > >> | > >> File "", line 1, in | > >> | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =EC=A7=80=EC=A0=95=EB=90=9C = =EB=AA=A8=EB=93=88=EC=9D=84 =EC=B0=BE=EC=9D=84 =EC=88=98 = =EC=97=86=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4. =3D=3D> In | > Korean, | > >> | > "Cannot find the module". | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> Regards, | > >> | > >> Min-Kyu | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> +------------------------------+ | > >> | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu | > >> | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. | > >> | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN = 37232- | > 8725 | > >> | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > -----Original Message----- | > >> | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On | > >> | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > >> | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM | > >> | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > >> | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > >> | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError | > >> | > >> | > | > >> | > >> | > Hi, | > >> | > >> | > | > >> | > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should = have | > >> | > worked :S | > >> | > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you | > type: | > >> | > >> | > | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup | > >> | > >> | > | > >> | > >> | > Do you get something like: | > >> | > >> | > | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup | > >> | > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): | > >> | > >> | > File "", line 1, in | > >> | > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit | > >> | > >> | > relax> | > >> | > >> | > | > >> | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S | > >> | > >> | > | > >> | > >> | > Bye, | > >> | > >> | > | > >> | > >> | > Edward | > >> | > >> | > | > >> | > >> | > | > >> | > >> | > | > >> | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> | > >> | > >> | > wrote: | > >> | > >> | > > Hi, | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > relax 1.3.10 | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data = analysis | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward = d'Auvergne | > >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax = development | > team | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to = modify | > and | > >> | > redistribute | > >> | > >> | > under | > >> | > >> | > > the | > >> | > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). | > This | > >> | > program, | > >> | > >> | > including | > >> | > >> | > > all | > >> | > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with | > absolutely no | > >> | > >> | > warranty. | > >> | > >> | > > For | > >> | > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting | > interface | > >> | > can be | > >> | > >> | > accessed | > >> | > >> | > > by | > >> | > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is = unavailable, | > the | > >> | > >> | > corresponding C | > >> | > >> | > > modules have not been compiled. | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Hardware information: | > >> | > >> | > > Machine: x86 | > >> | > >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 = Stepping 6, | > >> | > >> | > GenuineIntel | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > System information: | > >> | > >> | > > System: Windows | > >> | > >> | > > Release: post2008Server | > >> | > >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600 | > >> | > >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600 | > Multiprocessor | > >> | > Free | > >> | > >> | > > Distribution: | > >> | > >> | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server- | > 6.1.7600 | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Software information: | > >> | > >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE | > >> | > >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5 | > >> | > >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265 | > >> | > >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 = 21:48:26 | > >> | > >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit = (Intel) | > >> | > >> | > > Python implementation: CPython | > >> | > >> | > > Python revision: 79096 | > >> | > >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 | > >> | > >> | > > Libc version: | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Package Installed Version = Path | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > minfx True Unknown | > >> | > D:\Programs\relax\minfx | > >> | > >> | > > bmrblib False | > >> | > >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1 = C:\Program | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy | > >> | > >> | > > ScientificPython False | > >> | > >> | > > wxPython True | > >> | > >> | > > mpi4py False | > >> | > >> | > > epydoc False | > >> | > >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3 = C:\Program | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py | > >> | > >> | > > Numeric False | > >> | > >> | > > readline True = C:\Program | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py | > >> | > >> | > > profile True = C:\Program | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py | > >> | > >> | > > bz2 True = C:\Program | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd | > >> | > >> | > > gzip True = C:\Program | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py | > >> | > >> | > > os.devnull True = C:\Program | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: | > >> | > >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False | > >> | > >> | > > --- | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the = moment, | > I don't | > >> | > need | > >> | > >> | > it, but | > >> | > >> | > > will try later with my data. | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Regards, | > >> | > >> | > > Min-Kyu | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > +------------------------------+ | > >> | > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu | > >> | > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. | > >> | > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, = TN | > 37232- | > >> | > 8725 | > >> | > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- | > >> | > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid | > >> | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On | > >> | > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > >> | > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM | > >> | > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > >> | > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > >> | > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Hi, | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from | > >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could = you | > run: | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that = the C | > >> | > modules for | > >> | > >> | > the | > >> | > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates = is | > either | > >> | > not | > >> | > >> | > compiled | > >> | > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with = your | > >> | > combination of | > >> | > >> | > MS | > >> | > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy = version. | > It may | > >> | > be | > >> | > >> | > that | > >> | > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in = which | > case | > >> | > the 32- | > >> | > >> | > bit C | > >> | > >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use = this | > part | > >> | > of relax, | > >> | > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I = have | > >> | > created | > >> | > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development | > environment on | > >> | > Windows | > >> | > >> | > to | > >> | > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it = should be | > >> | > possible to | > >> | > >> | > > | > compile the module. | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Regards, | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Edward | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > >> | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho >> | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> | > >> | > >> | > > | > wrote: | > >> | > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed = 'relax' | > on | > >> | > Window7; | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is | > unavailable, the | > >> | > >> | > > | > corresponding C | > >> | > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled. | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > What should I do? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:09:49 -0000 Thanks Seb and Edward, The off rate is 13.8*10^-3 s-1, on rate is 5.3*10^6 M-1s-1. It's been developed to be a good binder (Kd=2.6 nm) - does that seem alright? I suppose we won't know until we look at the data - we have access to two fields - 600 and 900, which we'll use for free and bound forms. Hopefully it should bind strongly enough. If not, we're looking for stronger binders anyway, so we could use one of those when it comes along. Thanks Maddy ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: relax-users Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 From: relax-users-request@domain.hid Date: Thu, February 24, 2011 10:53 am To: relax-users@domain.hid -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Send relax-users mailing list submissions to relax-users@domain.hid To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to relax-users-request@domain.hid You can reach the person managing the list at relax-users-owner@domain.hid When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of relax-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Binding studies (Maddy Strickland) 2. Re: ImporError (Edward d'Auvergne) 3. Re: Binding studies (Edward d'Auvergne) 4. Re: Binding studies (S?bastien Morin) 5. Re: ImporError (Edward d'Auvergne) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:04:24 -0000 (GMT) From: "Maddy Strickland" Subject: Binding studies To: relax-users@domain.hid Message-ID: <39940.137.222.43.71.1298455464.squirrel@domain.hid> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Hi everyone, I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I've already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. I was wondering if I added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the new relaxation data? Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequences etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? It's a fairly strong binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a sphere... What do you all think? Madeleine Strickland ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:11:42 +0100 From: "Edward d'Auvergne" Subject: Re: ImporError To: Min-Kyu Cho Cc: relax-users@domain.hid Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Hi, This is very puzzling :S I will install Python 2.6 and make a new distribution archive. Bye, Edward On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho wrote: > Hi, > > I tried and got this error; > > > relax 1.3.10 > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute under the > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program, including all > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no warranty. For > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be accessed by > typing 'help' within the prompt. > > ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. (= Cannot find the specified module). > Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C modules. > > relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > ImportError: No module named realx_fit > > ------------------------------------ > But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got the same error you showed me previously. > > Regards, > Min-Kyu > > +------------------------------+ > Cho, Min-Kyu > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > > | > Hi, > | > > | > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit Windows > | > building environment and made a new distribution archive for relax > | > 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download location: > | > > | > http://download.gna.org/relax/ > | > > | > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. Hopefully this one > | > works! > | > > | > Regards, > | > > | > Edward > | > > | > > | > > | > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : > | > > Hi, > | > > > | > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL load failed > | > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists but it > | > > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file does not exist. > | > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't work out > | > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. I compiled > | > > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a very old 32-bit > | > > system, but should still produce things that run on all windows > | > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be that the numpy > | > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too new. It > | > > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old Windows > | > > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve that for > | > > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows version problem, > | > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that. > | > > > | > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator access, an > | > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ > | > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherwise you could > | > > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, maybe I'll try to > | > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and make a new > | > > zip file for you to test. > | > > > | > > Regards, > | > > > | > > Edward > | > > > | > > > | > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho > | > wrote: > | > >> Yes, I got the same error message. > | > >> > | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): > | > >> File "", line 1, in > | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. ==> In Korean, > | > "Cannot find the module". > | > >> > | > >> Regards, > | > >> Min-Kyu > | > >> > | > >> +------------------------------+ > | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 > | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> | > -----Original Message----- > | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM > | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Hi, > | > >> | > > | > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should have > | > worked :S > | > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you type: > | > >> | > > | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Do you get something like: > | > >> | > > | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup > | > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): > | > >> | > File "", line 1, in > | > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit > | > >> | > relax> > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Bye, > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Edward > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > >> | > wrote: > | > >> | > > Hi, > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > relax 1.3.10 > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne > | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and > | > redistribute > | > >> | > under > | > >> | > > the > | > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This > | > program, > | > >> | > including > | > >> | > > all > | > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no > | > >> | > warranty. > | > >> | > > For > | > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface > | > can be > | > >> | > accessed > | > >> | > > by > | > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the > | > >> | > corresponding C > | > >> | > > modules have not been compiled. > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Hardware information: > | > >> | > > Machine: x86 > | > >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6, > | > >> | > GenuineIntel > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > System information: > | > >> | > > System: Windows > | > >> | > > Release: post2008Server > | > >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600 > | > >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600 Multiprocessor > | > Free > | > >> | > > Distribution: > | > >> | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600 > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Software information: > | > >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE > | > >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5 > | > >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265 > | > >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 21:48:26 > | > >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel) > | > >> | > > Python implementation: CPython > | > >> | > > Python revision: 79096 > | > >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 > | > >> | > > Libc version: > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Package Installed Version Path > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > minfx True Unknown > | > D:\Programs\relax\minfx > | > >> | > > bmrblib False > | > >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1 C:\Program > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy > | > >> | > > ScientificPython False > | > >> | > > wxPython True > | > >> | > > mpi4py False > | > >> | > > epydoc False > | > >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3 C:\Program > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py > | > >> | > > Numeric False > | > >> | > > readline True C:\Program > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py > | > >> | > > profile True C:\Program > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py > | > >> | > > bz2 True C:\Program > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd > | > >> | > > gzip True C:\Program > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py > | > >> | > > os.devnull True C:\Program > | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: > | > >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False > | > >> | > > --- > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I don't > | > need > | > >> | > it, but > | > >> | > > will try later with my data. > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Regards, > | > >> | > > Min-Kyu > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > +------------------------------+ > | > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232- > | > 8725 > | > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM > | > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > Hi, > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from > | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run: > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that the C > | > modules for > | > >> | > the > | > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is either > | > not > | > >> | > compiled > | > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your > | > combination of > | > >> | > MS > | > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. It may > | > be > | > >> | > that > | > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which case > | > the 32- > | > >> | > bit C > | > >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use this part > | > of relax, > | > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have > | > created > | > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development environment on > | > Windows > | > >> | > to > | > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be > | > possible to > | > >> | > > | > compile the module. > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > Regards, > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > Edward > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > >> | > > | > wrote: > | > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on > | > Window7; > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the > | > >> | > > | > corresponding C > | > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled. > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > What should I do? > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > Cheers, > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > Min-Kyu > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > _______________________________________________ > | > >> | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list > | > >> | > > | > > relax-users@domain.hid > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > | > >> | > > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, > | > >> | > > | > > visit the list information page at > | > >> | > > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > _______________________________________________ > | > >> | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > This is the relax-users mailing list > | > >> | > > relax-users@domain.hid > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > | > >> | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, > | > >> | > > visit the list information page at > | > >> | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > | > >> | > > > | > >> > | > >> > | > > > > > _______________________________________________ > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > > This is the relax-users mailing list > relax-users@domain.hid > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > reminder, or change your subscription options, > visit the list information page at > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:45:39 +0100 From: "Edward d'Auvergne" Subject: Re: Binding studies To: Maddy Strickland Cc: relax-users@domain.hid, S?bastien M Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, This can be tricky. Can you estimate the percentage of monomer verses dimer? Can you also estimate the amount of time the peptide binds to the receptor? Do you have binding data for the NMR sample conditions? If the more than 90% of the receptor is bound to the peptide and the time bound to the receptor is significant, then you should be able to handle this with standard model-free analysis using a single diffusion tensor. This will likely require data at 2 or more field strengths. Seb, have you worked with this situation? Regards, Edward On 23 February 2011 11:04, Maddy Strickland wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I've > already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. ?I was wondering if I > added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the > new relaxation data? ?Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequences > etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? ?It's a fairly strong > binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a > sphere... ?What do you all think? > > > Madeleine Strickland > > > > _______________________________________________ > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > > This is the relax-users mailing list > relax-users@domain.hid > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > reminder, or change your subscription options, > visit the list information page at > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:13:41 +0100 From: S?bastien Morin Subject: Re: Binding studies To: Edward d'Auvergne Cc: Maddy Strickland , "relax-users@domain.hid" , S?bastien M Message-ID: <4D662F55.2040609@domain.hid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, I have not worked with this situation. However, I agree that binding kinetics should be known (on and off rates) and a majority of bound complex should exist over time, otherwise the situation might be tricky since some contribution from unbound protein might arise (with a shorter correlation time, and potentially different dynamics). Also, contribution from potential conformational exchange caused by binding and unbinding of the ligand (depending on the exchange rate, i.e. on and off rates), rather than 'real' changes in dynamics on the protein, could complicate analysis and give a false impression of changes in the protein dynamics. I hope this helps. Best regards, S?b :) On 11-02-24 10:45 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote: > Hi, > > This can be tricky. Can you estimate the percentage of monomer verses > dimer? Can you also estimate the amount of time the peptide binds to > the receptor? Do you have binding data for the NMR sample conditions? > If the more than 90% of the receptor is bound to the peptide and the > time bound to the receptor is significant, then you should be able to > handle this with standard model-free analysis using a single diffusion > tensor. This will likely require data at 2 or more field strengths. > Seb, have you worked with this situation? > > Regards, > > Edward > > > On 23 February 2011 11:04, Maddy Strickland wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I've >> already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. I was wondering if I >> added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the >> new relaxation data? Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequences >> etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? It's a fairly strong >> binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a >> sphere... What do you all think? >> >> >> Madeleine Strickland >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> >> This is the relax-users mailing list >> relax-users@domain.hid >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> reminder, or change your subscription options, >> visit the list information page at >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> -- S?bastien Morin, Ph.D. Postdoctoral fellow S. Grzesiek NMR Laboratory Biozentrum, Universit?t Basel Basel, Switzerland ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:53:14 +0100 From: "Edward d'Auvergne" Subject: Re: ImporError To: Min-Kyu Cho Cc: relax-users@domain.hid Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Hi, I've now build the C modules using Python 2.6.6 with numpy 1.5.1, on MS Windows 2000. The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py26.zip and you can find it at http://download.gna.org/relax. Could you test this one out? Cheers, Edward 2011/2/24 Edward d'Auvergne : > Hi, > > This is very puzzling :S I will install Python 2.6 and make a new > distribution archive. > > Bye, > > Edward > > > On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I tried and got this error; >> >> >> relax 1.3.10 >> >> Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis >> >> Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne >> Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team >> >> This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute under the >> conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program, including all >> modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no warranty. For >> details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. >> >> Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be accessed by >> typing 'help' within the prompt. >> >> ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. (= Cannot find the specified module). >> Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C modules. >> >> relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "", line 1, in >> ImportError: No module named realx_fit >> >> ------------------------------------ >> But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got the same error you showed me previously. >> >> Regards, >> Min-Kyu >> >> +------------------------------+ >> Cho, Min-Kyu >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 >> >> >> | > -----Original Message----- >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError >> | > >> | > Hi, >> | > >> | > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit Windows >> | > building environment and made a new distribution archive for relax >> | > 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download location: >> | > >> | > http://download.gna.org/relax/ >> | > >> | > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. Hopefully this one >> | > works! >> | > >> | > Regards, >> | > >> | > Edward >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : >> | > > Hi, >> | > > >> | > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL load failed >> | > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists but it >> | > > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file does not exist. >> | > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't work out >> | > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. I compiled >> | > > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a very old 32-bit >> | > > system, but should still produce things that run on all windows >> | > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be that the numpy >> | > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too new. It >> | > > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old Windows >> | > > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve that for >> | > > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows version problem, >> | > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that. >> | > > >> | > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator access, an >> | > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ >> | > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherwise you could >> | > > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, maybe I'll try to >> | > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and make a new >> | > > zip file for you to test. >> | > > >> | > > Regards, >> | > > >> | > > Edward >> | > > >> | > > >> | > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho >> | > wrote: >> | > >> Yes, I got the same error message. >> | > >> >> | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> | > >> File "", line 1, in >> | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. ==> In Korean, >> | > "Cannot find the module". >> | > >> >> | > >> Regards, >> | > >> Min-Kyu >> | > >> >> | > >> +------------------------------+ >> | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >> | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 >> | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 >> | > >> >> | > >> >> | > >> | > -----Original Message----- >> | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On >> | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >> | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM >> | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Hi, >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should have >> | > worked :S >> | > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you type: >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Do you get something like: >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup >> | > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): >> | > >> | > File "", line 1, in >> | > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit >> | > >> | > relax> >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Bye, >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Edward >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho > | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> >> | > >> | > wrote: >> | > >> | > > Hi, >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > relax 1.3.10 >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and >> | > redistribute >> | > >> | > under >> | > >> | > > the >> | > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This >> | > program, >> | > >> | > including >> | > >> | > > all >> | > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no >> | > >> | > warranty. >> | > >> | > > For >> | > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface >> | > can be >> | > >> | > accessed >> | > >> | > > by >> | > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the >> | > >> | > corresponding C >> | > >> | > > modules have not been compiled. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Hardware information: >> | > >> | > > Machine: x86 >> | > >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6, >> | > >> | > GenuineIntel >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > System information: >> | > >> | > > System: Windows >> | > >> | > > Release: post2008Server >> | > >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600 >> | > >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600 Multiprocessor >> | > Free >> | > >> | > > Distribution: >> | > >> | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600 >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Software information: >> | > >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE >> | > >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5 >> | > >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265 >> | > >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 21:48:26 >> | > >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel) >> | > >> | > > Python implementation: CPython >> | > >> | > > Python revision: 79096 >> | > >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 >> | > >> | > > Libc version: >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Package Installed Version Path >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > minfx True Unknown >> | > D:\Programs\relax\minfx >> | > >> | > > bmrblib False >> | > >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1 C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy >> | > >> | > > ScientificPython False >> | > >> | > > wxPython True >> | > >> | > > mpi4py False >> | > >> | > > epydoc False >> | > >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3 C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py >> | > >> | > > Numeric False >> | > >> | > > readline True C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py >> | > >> | > > profile True C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py >> | > >> | > > bz2 True C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd >> | > >> | > > gzip True C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py >> | > >> | > > os.devnull True C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: >> | > >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False >> | > >> | > > --- >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I don't >> | > need >> | > >> | > it, but >> | > >> | > > will try later with my data. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Regards, >> | > >> | > > Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > +------------------------------+ >> | > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >> | > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232- >> | > 8725 >> | > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- >> | > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid >> | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On >> | > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >> | > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM >> | > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Hi, >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run: >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that the C >> | > modules for >> | > >> | > the >> | > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is either >> | > not >> | > >> | > compiled >> | > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your >> | > combination of >> | > >> | > MS >> | > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. It may >> | > be >> | > >> | > that >> | > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which case >> | > the 32- >> | > >> | > bit C >> | > >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use this part >> | > of relax, >> | > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have >> | > created >> | > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development environment on >> | > Windows >> | > >> | > to >> | > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be >> | > possible to >> | > >> | > > | > compile the module. >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Regards, >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Edward >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho > | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> >> | > >> | > > | > wrote: >> | > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on >> | > Window7; >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the >> | > >> | > > | > corresponding C >> | > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled. >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > What should I do? >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > Cheers, >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > _______________________________________________ >> | > >> | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list >> | > >> | > > | > > relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> | > >> | > > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, >> | > >> | > > | > > visit the list information page at >> | > >> | > > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > _______________________________________________ >> | > >> | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > This is the relax-users mailing list >> | > >> | > > relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> | > >> | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, >> | > >> | > > visit the list information page at >> | > >> | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> >> | > >> >> | > > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> >> This is the relax-users mailing list >> relax-users@domain.hid >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> reminder, or change your subscription options, >> visit the list information page at >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ relax (http://nmr-relax.com) This is the relax-users mailing list relax-users@domain.hid To unsubscribe from this list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, visit the list information page at https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users End of relax-users Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 ****************************************** Madeleine Strickland MCJC Group N317, School of Chemistry, Bristol University From M.Strickland@domain.hid Thu Feb 24 12:11:40 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsZ6a-00050m-Uo for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:11:40 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.6 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.102]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsZ6a-0004z6-TF for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:11:32 +0100 Received: from chico.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.178]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PsZ6B-0002nz-PX for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:11:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=webmail.bris.ac.uk) by chico.bris.ac.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PsZ6B-0006Lt-Lb for relax-users@domain.hid; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:11:07 +0000 Received: from 137.222.43.71 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ms4225) by webmail.bris.ac.uk with HTTP; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:11:07 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <35695.137.222.43.71.1298545867.squirrel@domain.hid> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:11:07 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [Fwd: Re: Binding studies] From: "Maddy Strickland" To: relax-users@domain.hid User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:05:49 +0100 X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:11:40 -0000 Yep, just did the calculation - for 2.6 nm looks like it will pretty much all be bound. Great stuff!! ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: Binding studies From: Sébastien Morin Date: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:01 am To: Cc: "Edward d'Auvergne" "Maddy Strickland" "relax-users@domain.hid" Sébastien M -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi again, One last comment: Is the KD known ? If yes, than the population of bound complex can be calculated from the following relation: Bound = ( [Ligand] ) / ( KD + [Ligand] ) For example, with a KD of 100 uM (0.1 mM), a concentration of ligand of 1 mM (matched with a protein concentration smaller or equal to 1 mM) would yield a steady-state bound population of ~91% (0.91). Cheers, Séb :) On 11-02-24 11:13 AM, Sébastien Morin wrote: > Hi, > > I have not worked with this situation. > > However, I agree that binding kinetics should be known (on and off > rates) and a majority of bound complex should exist over time, > otherwise the situation might be tricky since some contribution from > unbound protein might arise (with a shorter correlation time, and > potentially different dynamics). Also, contribution from potential > conformational exchange caused by binding and unbinding of the ligand > (depending on the exchange rate, i.e. on and off rates), rather than > 'real' changes in dynamics on the protein, could complicate analysis > and give a false impression of changes in the protein dynamics. > > I hope this helps. > > Best regards, > > > Séb :) > > > On 11-02-24 10:45 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This can be tricky. Can you estimate the percentage of monomer verses >> dimer? Can you also estimate the amount of time the peptide binds to >> the receptor? Do you have binding data for the NMR sample conditions? >> If the more than 90% of the receptor is bound to the peptide and the >> time bound to the receptor is significant, then you should be able to >> handle this with standard model-free analysis using a single diffusion >> tensor. This will likely require data at 2 or more field strengths. >> Seb, have you worked with this situation? >> >> Regards, >> >> Edward >> >> >> On 23 February 2011 11:04, Maddy >> Strickland wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which >>> I've >>> already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. I was wondering >>> if I >>> added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the >>> new relaxation data? Can I still use Relax and the same pulse >>> sequences >>> etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? It's a fairly strong >>> binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a >>> sphere... What do you all think? >>> >>> >>> Madeleine Strickland >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >>> >>> This is the relax-users mailing list >>> relax-users@domain.hid >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >>> reminder, or change your subscription options, >>> visit the list information page at >>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >>> > -- Sébastien Morin, Ph.D. Postdoctoral fellow S. Grzesiek NMR Laboratory Biozentrum, Universität Basel Basel, Switzerland Madeleine Strickland MCJC Group N317, School of Chemistry, Bristol University From edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Fri Feb 25 11:13:38 2011 Received: from Debian-exim by gna.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Psufx-0004K1-LJ for relax-users@domain.hid; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:13:38 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.gna.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.3 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-iw0-f179.google.com ([209.85.214.179]) by gna.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Psufx-0004Ic-9u for relax-users@domain.hid; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:13:29 +0100 Received: by iwc10 with SMTP id 10so967940iwc.10 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:13:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WlvRE56LgA4XW/ge1s/Bq0d994596FMpTiRtjB97Cy0=; b=sffgWkwa1D/tTLVW+FLJ5VLT01PX+rCFJIveYS/W//SAdyaNbpV9QNO9SNmVEAjH80 asNZEwxJl6b4hGAExngAxdSpXFiLaHyHzrLA7MTGjbXD8fWheV1jSO6ZekoU/ky7cVZ7 9ILOoI/ohm8bnnE1GNEGKwOb1FmDrC6fFPsPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=BTxFRb4TzXIcZu3Jh4/jnpxWYjIWZlHAHBrjqOO3Uk3/HYouFIXZdKYERMYhF1G7bM tD9K/XSkq6RO+OrgByqVA74JJ2TU46nMYci2iSrfGsTOb91z7Yu+W+jHoxGp7QcWnn92 +o/cTRmhEl8WI19TLvLs424WzFpSmJwrUALDM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.49.69 with SMTP id u5mr2594267ibf.185.1298628787367; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:13:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid Received: by 10.231.207.15 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:13:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4300721802137600066@domain.hid> References: <4878647560192870286@domain.hid> <-2585107616979111554@domain.hid> <-7380198190319063800@domain.hid> <-6500117405360917252@domain.hid> <4300721802137600066@domain.hid> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:13:07 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BKIQWUCPRAcvxNq4GgLEj9WeLeI Message-ID: Subject: Re: ImporError From: "Edward d'Auvergne" To: Min-Kyu Cho Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: relax-users@domain.hid X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:13:38 -0000 Man, such a complicated system :S I just checked on GNU/Linux. Python 2.5 and 2.6 are compatible with each other. But Python 2.7 is not, I get a "Segmentation fault"! Grrr, I have to make sure that I am not using Python 2.7, and the user is not either. Or maybe I can compile the C modules on Python 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2 and have the correct one loaded at run time. Complicated! Anyway, thanks for checking this. Cheers, Edward On 24 February 2011 17:36, Min-Kyu Cho wrote: > Yes! It doesn't show any error message! > > For information, my laptop has Window7 Home Premium on Intel 32bit dual c= ore. > > Thanks Eddy! > > Min-Kyu > > +------------------------------+ > Cho, Min-Kyu > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] = On > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:53 AM > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > > | > Hi, > | > > | > I've now build the C modules using Python 2.6.6 with numpy 1.5.1, on > | > MS Windows 2000. The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py26.zip and > | > you can find it at http://download.gna.org/relax. Could you test thi= s > | > one out? > | > > | > Cheers, > | > > | > Edward > | > > | > > | > 2011/2/24 Edward d'Auvergne : > | > > Hi, > | > > > | > > This is very puzzling :S I will install Python 2.6 and make a new > | > > distribution archive. > | > > > | > > Bye, > | > > > | > > Edward > | > > > | > > > | > > On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho > | > wrote: > | > >> Hi, > | > >> > | > >> I tried and got this error; > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> relax 1.3.10 > | > >> > | > >> Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis > | > >> > | > >> Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne > | > >> Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team > | > >> > | > >> This is free software which you are welcome to modify and > | > redistribute under the > | > >> conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program, > | > including all > | > >> modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no > | > warranty. For > | > >> details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. > | > >> > | > >> Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can b= e > | > accessed by > | > >> typing 'help' within the prompt. > | > >> > | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =C1=F6=C1=A4=B5=C8 =B8=F0=B5=E2=C0= =BB =C3=A3=C0=BB =BC=F6 =BE=F8=BD=C0=B4=CF=B4=D9. (=3D Cannot > | > find the specified module). > | > >> Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C modul= es. > | > >> > | > >> relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup > | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): > | > >> File "", line 1, in > | > >> ImportError: No module named realx_fit > | > >> > | > >> ------------------------------------ > | > >> But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got the s= ame > | > error you showed me previously. > | > >> > | > >> Regards, > | > >> Min-Kyu > | > >> > | > >> +------------------------------+ > | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 > | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> | > -----Original Message----- > | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM > | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Hi, > | > >> | > > | > >> | > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit Wind= ows > | > >> | > building environment and made a new distribution archive for > | > relax > | > >> | > 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download location: > | > >> | > > | > >> | > http://download.gna.org/relax/ > | > >> | > > | > >> | > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. Hopefully thi= s > | > one > | > >> | > works! > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Regards, > | > >> | > > | > >> | > Edward > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : > | > >> | > > Hi, > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL load > | > failed > | > >> | > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists > | > but it > | > >> | > > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file does not > | > exist. > | > >> | > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't > | > work out > | > >> | > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. I > | > compiled > | > >> | > > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a very old = 32- > | > bit > | > >> | > > system, but should still produce things that run on all wind= ows > | > >> | > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be that = the > | > numpy > | > >> | > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too > | > new. It > | > >> | > > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old > | > Windows > | > >> | > > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve > | > that for > | > >> | > > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows version > | > problem, > | > >> | > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that. > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator acce= ss, > | > an > | > >> | > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ > | > >> | > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherwise yo= u > | > could > | > >> | > > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, maybe I= 'll > | > try to > | > >> | > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and m= ake > | > a new > | > >> | > > zip file for you to test. > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Regards, > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > Edward > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > > | > >> | > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > >> | > wrote: > | > >> | > >> Yes, I got the same error message. > | > >> | > >> > | > >> | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): > | > >> | > >> File "", line 1, in > | > >> | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =C1=F6=C1=A4=B5=C8 =B8=F0=B5= =E2=C0=BB =C3=A3=C0=BB =BC=F6 =BE=F8=BD=C0=B4=CF=B4=D9. =3D=3D> In > | > Korean, > | > >> | > "Cannot find the module". > | > >> | > >> > | > >> | > >> Regards, > | > >> | > >> Min-Kyu > | > >> | > >> > | > >> | > >> +------------------------------+ > | > >> | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > >> | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 372= 32- > | > 8725 > | > >> | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > >> | > >> > | > >> | > >> > | > >> | > >> | > -----Original Message----- > | > >> | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > >> | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > >> | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM > | > >> | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > >> | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > Hi, > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should h= ave > | > >> | > worked :S > | > >> | > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you > | > type: > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > Do you get something like: > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup > | > >> | > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): > | > >> | > >> | > File "", line 1, in > | > >> | > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit > | > >> | > >> | > relax> > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > Bye, > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > Edward > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > >> | > >> | > wrote: > | > >> | > >> | > > Hi, > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > relax 1.3.10 > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data ana= lysis > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Au= vergne > | > >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax devel= opment > | > team > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify > | > and > | > >> | > redistribute > | > >> | > >> | > under > | > >> | > >> | > > the > | > >> | > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). > | > This > | > >> | > program, > | > >> | > >> | > including > | > >> | > >> | > > all > | > >> | > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with > | > absolutely no > | > >> | > >> | > warranty. > | > >> | > >> | > > For > | > >> | > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting > | > interface > | > >> | > can be > | > >> | > >> | > accessed > | > >> | > >> | > > by > | > >> | > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, > | > the > | > >> | > >> | > corresponding C > | > >> | > >> | > > modules have not been compiled. > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > Hardware information: > | > >> | > >> | > > Machine: x86 > | > >> | > >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Ste= pping 6, > | > >> | > >> | > GenuineIntel > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > System information: > | > >> | > >> | > > System: Windows > | > >> | > >> | > > Release: post2008Server > | > >> | > >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600 > | > >> | > >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600 > | > Multiprocessor > | > >> | > Free > | > >> | > >> | > > Distribution: > | > >> | > >> | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server- > | > 6.1.7600 > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > Software information: > | > >> | > >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE > | > >> | > >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5 > | > >> | > >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265 > | > >> | > >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 2= 1:48:26 > | > >> | > >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel) > | > >> | > >> | > > Python implementation: CPython > | > >> | > >> | > > Python revision: 79096 > | > >> | > >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 > | > >> | > >> | > > Libc version: > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > Package Installed Version = Path > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > minfx True Unknown > | > >> | > D:\Programs\relax\minfx > | > >> | > >> | > > bmrblib False > | > >> | > >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1 = C:\Program > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy > | > >> | > >> | > > ScientificPython False > | > >> | > >> | > > wxPython True > | > >> | > >> | > > mpi4py False > | > >> | > >> | > > epydoc False > | > >> | > >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3 = C:\Program > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py > | > >> | > >> | > > Numeric False > | > >> | > >> | > > readline True = C:\Program > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py > | > >> | > >> | > > profile True = C:\Program > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py > | > >> | > >> | > > bz2 True = C:\Program > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd > | > >> | > >> | > > gzip True = C:\Program > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py > | > >> | > >> | > > os.devnull True = C:\Program > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: > | > >> | > >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False > | > >> | > >> | > > --- > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the momen= t, > | > I don't > | > >> | > need > | > >> | > >> | > it, but > | > >> | > >> | > > will try later with my data. > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > Regards, > | > >> | > >> | > > Min-Kyu > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > +------------------------------+ > | > >> | > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> | > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > >> | > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, = TN > | > 37232- > | > >> | > 8725 > | > >> | > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > >> | > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > >> | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM > | > >> | > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Hi, > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from > | > >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could yo= u > | > run: > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that th= e C > | > >> | > modules for > | > >> | > >> | > the > | > >> | > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates i= s > | > either > | > >> | > not > | > >> | > >> | > compiled > | > >> | > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your > | > >> | > combination of > | > >> | > >> | > MS > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy versio= n. > | > It may > | > >> | > be > | > >> | > >> | > that > | > >> | > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in whi= ch > | > case > | > >> | > the 32- > | > >> | > >> | > bit C > | > >> | > >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use t= his > | > part > | > >> | > of relax, > | > >> | > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I h= ave > | > >> | > created > | > >> | > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development > | > environment on > | > >> | > Windows > | > >> | > >> | > to > | > >> | > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should= be > | > >> | > possible to > | > >> | > >> | > > | > compile the module. > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Regards, > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Edward > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho | > >> | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > >> | > >> | > > | > wrote: > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'rela= x' > | > on > | > >> | > Window7; > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is > | > unavailable, the > | > >> | > >> | > > | > corresponding C > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled. > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > What should I do? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:17:16 -0000 Hi, You should have a look at the paper of Schurr, 1994. It should be easy enough to find. Though I have it listed in my PhD thesis if it is a problem to find (see http://www.nmr-relax.com/refs.html). He had a look at monomer-dimer mixtures using synthetic test systems. It is the most comprehensive reference for this issue, and it describes the likely artifacts. You should know these, so that you don't accidentally make false conclusions about the dynamics. Regards, Edward On 24 February 2011 12:08, Maddy Strickland wr= ote: > Thanks Seb and Edward, > > The off rate is 13.8*10^-3 s-1, on rate is 5.3*10^6 M-1s-1. =A0It's been > developed to be a good binder (Kd=3D2.6 nm) - does that seem alright? =A0= I > suppose we won't know until we look at the data - we have access to two > fields - 600 and 900, which we'll use for free and bound forms. =A0Hopefu= lly > it should bind strongly enough. =A0If not, we're looking for stronger > binders anyway, so we could use one of those when it comes along. > > Thanks > > Maddy > > ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------= - > Subject: relax-users Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 > From: =A0 =A0relax-users-request@domain.hid > Date: =A0 =A0Thu, February 24, 2011 10:53 am > To: =A0 =A0 =A0relax-users@domain.hid > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > Send relax-users mailing list submissions to > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0relax-users@domain.hid > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0relax-users-request@domain.hid > > You can reach the person managing the list at > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0relax-users-owner@domain.hid > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of relax-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > =A0 1. Binding studies (Maddy Strickland) > =A0 2. Re: ImporError (Edward d'Auvergne) > =A0 3. Re: Binding studies (Edward d'Auvergne) > =A0 4. Re: Binding studies (S?bastien Morin) > =A0 5. Re: ImporError (Edward d'Auvergne) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:04:24 -0000 (GMT) > From: "Maddy Strickland" > Subject: Binding studies > To: relax-users@domain.hid > Message-ID: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<39940.137.222.43.71.1298455464.squirrel@domain.hid= k> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=3Diso-8859-15 > > Hi everyone, > > I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I've > already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. =A0I was wondering if = I > added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the > new relaxation data? =A0Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequence= s > etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? =A0It's a fairly strong > binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a > sphere... =A0What do you all think? > > > Madeleine Strickland > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:11:42 +0100 > From: "Edward d'Auvergne" > Subject: Re: ImporError > To: Min-Kyu Cho > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > Message-ID: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DEUC-KR > > Hi, > > This is very puzzling :S =A0I will install Python 2.6 and make a new > distribution archive. > > Bye, > > Edward > > > On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho wrote= : >> Hi, >> >> I tried and got this error; >> >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0relax= 1.3.10 >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Molecular dynamics by NMR data an= alysis >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auv= ergne >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax developmen= t team >> >> This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute > under the >> conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). =A0This program, > including all >> modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no > warranty. =A0For >> details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. >> >> Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be > accessed by >> typing 'help' within the prompt. >> >> ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. (=3D Cannot find the > specified module). >> Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C modules. >> >> relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> =A0File "", line 1, in >> ImportError: No module named realx_fit >> >> ------------------------------------ >> But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got the same > error you showed me previously. >> >> Regards, >> Min-Kyu >> >> +------------------------------+ >> Cho, Min-Kyu >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 >> Phone: 615-936-3757 =A0/ =A0Fax: 615-936-2211 >> >> >> | > -----Original Message----- >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid]= On >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError >> | > >> | > Hi, >> | > >> | > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit Windows >> | > building environment and made a new distribution archive for relax >> | > 1.3.10. =A0You can find it at the relax download location: >> | > >> | > http://download.gna.org/relax/ >> | > >> | > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. =A0Hopefully this on= e >> | > works! >> | > >> | > Regards, >> | > >> | > Edward >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : >> | > > Hi, >> | > > >> | > > This message is actually a little different. =A0The DLL load faile= d >> | > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists but i= t >> | > > cannot be loaded. =A0In the message I gave, the file does not exis= t. >> | > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't work = out >> | > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. =A0I com= piled >> | > > this in a virtual machine. =A0It was Windows 2000 (a very old 32-b= it >> | > > system, but should still produce things that run on all windows >> | > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. =A0It could be that the = numpy >> | > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too new. = =A0It >> | > > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old Window= s >> | > > software. =A0If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve that= for >> | > > the next version of relax. =A0If it is the Windows version problem= , >> | > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that. >> | > > >> | > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator access, an >> | > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ >> | > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). =A0Otherwise you co= uld >> | > > wait until the next relax version to see. =A0Actually, maybe I'll > try to >> | > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and make a = new >> | > > zip file for you to test. >> | > > >> | > > Regards, >> | > > >> | > > Edward >> | > > >> | > > >> | > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho >> | > wrote: >> | > >> Yes, I got the same error message. >> | > >> >> | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> | > >> =A0File "", line 1, in >> | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. =3D=3D> In Korea= n, >> | > "Cannot find the module". >> | > >> >> | > >> Regards, >> | > >> Min-Kyu >> | > >> >> | > >> +------------------------------+ >> | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >> | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-872= 5 >> | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 =A0/ =A0Fax: 615-936-2211 >> | > >> >> | > >> >> | > >> | > -----Original Message----- >> | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On >> | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >> | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM >> | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Hi, >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > This is quite strange! =A0The Win32 distribution should have >> | > worked :S >> | > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? =A0What happens if you type= : >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Do you get something like: >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup >> | > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): >> | > >> | > =A0 File "", line 1, in >> | > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit >> | > >> | > relax> >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Bye, >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > Edward >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho > | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> >> | > >> | > wrote: >> | > >> | > > Hi, >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0relax 1.3.10 >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Molecular dynamics b= y NMR data analysis >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Copyright (C) 2001-2006= Edward d'Auvergne >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the rel= ax development > team >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and >> | > redistribute >> | > >> | > under >> | > >> | > > the >> | > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). =A0This >> | > program, >> | > >> | > including >> | > >> | > > all >> | > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with > absolutely no >> | > >> | > warranty. >> | > >> | > > For >> | > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interfac= e >> | > can be >> | > >> | > accessed >> | > >> | > > by >> | > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the >> | > >> | > corresponding C >> | > >> | > > modules have not been compiled. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Hardware information: >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Machine: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 x86 >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Processor: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 x86 Family 6 = Model 23 Stepping 6, >> | > >> | > GenuineIntel >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > System information: >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0System: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Windows >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Release: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 post2008Ser= ver >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 6.1.7600 >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Win32 version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 post2008Server 6.= 1.7600 > Multiprocessor >> | > Free >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Distribution: >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Full platform string: =A0 =A0Windows-post2008Server-= 6.1.7600 >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Software information: >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Architecture: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A032bit WindowsPE >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02.6.5 >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python branch: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 tags/r265 >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python build: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0r265:79096, Mar= 19 2010 21:48:26 >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python compiler: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 MSC v.1500 32 bit (= Intel) >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python implementation: =A0 CPython >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python revision: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 79096 >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Numpy version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1.5.1 >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Libc version: >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Package =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Installed =A0 =A0 =A0 Ve= rsion =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Path >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > minfx =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0Unknown >> | > D:\Programs\relax\minfx >> | > >> | > > bmrblib =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0False >> | > >> | > > numpy =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A01.5.1 > C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy >> | > >> | > > ScientificPython =A0 =A0 False >> | > >> | > > wxPython =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True >> | > >> | > > mpi4py =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 False >> | > >> | > > epydoc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 False >> | > >> | > > optparse =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A01.5.3 > C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py >> | > >> | > > Numeric =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0False >> | > >> | > > readline =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True > C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py >> | > >> | > > profile =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True > C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py >> | > >> | > > bz2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True > C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd >> | > >> | > > gzip =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True > C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py >> | > >> | > > os.devnull =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True > C:\Program >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: >> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Relaxation curve fitting: False >> | > >> | > > --- >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I > don't >> | > need >> | > >> | > it, but >> | > >> | > > will try later with my data. >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > Regards, >> | > >> | > > Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > +------------------------------+ >> | > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >> | > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 372= 32- >> | > 8725 >> | > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 =A0/ =A0Fax: 615-936-2211 >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- >> | > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid >> | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On >> | > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >> | > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM >> | > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Hi, >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? =A0Could you ru= n: >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? =A0The problem here is that the C >> | > modules for >> | > >> | > the >> | > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is eith= er >> | > not >> | > >> | > compiled >> | > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your >> | > combination of >> | > >> | > MS >> | > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. =A0= It > may >> | > be >> | > >> | > that >> | > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which cas= e >> | > the 32- >> | > >> | > bit C >> | > >> | > > | > module will not work. =A0If you don't need to use this = part >> | > of relax, >> | > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have >> | > created >> | > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development environment= on >> | > Windows >> | > >> | > to >> | > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be >> | > possible to >> | > >> | > > | > compile the module. >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Regards, >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Edward >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho > | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> >> | > >> | > > | > wrote: >> | > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on >> | > Window7; >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, > the >> | > >> | > > | > corresponding C >> | > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled. >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > What should I do? >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > Cheers, >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > Min-Kyu >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > _______________________________________________ >> | > >> | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list >> | > >> | > > | > > relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> | > >> | > > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, >> | > >> | > > | > > visit the list information page at >> | > >> | > > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > | > > >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > _______________________________________________ >> | > >> | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > This is the relax-users mailing list >> | > >> | > > relax-users@domain.hid >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> | > >> | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, >> | > >> | > > visit the list information page at >> | > >> | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> | > >> | > > >> | > >> >> | > >> >> | > > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> >> This is the relax-users mailing list >> relax-users@domain.hid >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> reminder, or change your subscription options, >> visit the list information page at >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:45:39 +0100 > From: "Edward d'Auvergne" > Subject: Re: Binding studies > To: Maddy Strickland > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid, S?bastien M > Message-ID: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 > > Hi, > > This can be tricky. =A0Can you estimate the percentage of monomer verses > dimer? =A0Can you also estimate the amount of time the peptide binds to > the receptor? =A0Do you have binding data for the NMR sample conditions? > =A0If the more than 90% of the receptor is bound to the peptide and the > time bound to the receptor is significant, then you should be able to > handle this with standard model-free analysis using a single diffusion > tensor. =A0This will likely require data at 2 or more field strengths. > Seb, have you worked with this situation? > > Regards, > > Edward > > > On 23 February 2011 11:04, Maddy Strickland > wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I've >> already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. ?I was wondering if I >> added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the >> new relaxation data? ?Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequences >> etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? ?It's a fairly strong >> binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a >> sphere... ?What do you all think? >> >> >> Madeleine Strickland >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >> >> This is the relax-users mailing list >> relax-users@domain.hid >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> reminder, or change your subscription options, >> visit the list information page at >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:13:41 +0100 > From: S?bastien Morin > Subject: Re: Binding studies > To: Edward d'Auvergne > Cc: Maddy Strickland , > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"relax-users@domain.hid" , S?bastien M > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > Message-ID: <4D662F55.2040609@domain.hid> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed > > Hi, > > I have not worked with this situation. > > However, I agree that binding kinetics should be known (on and off > rates) and a majority of bound complex should exist over time, otherwise > the situation might be tricky since some contribution from unbound > protein might arise (with a shorter correlation time, and potentially > different dynamics). Also, contribution from potential conformational > exchange caused by binding and unbinding of the ligand (depending on the > exchange rate, i.e. on and off rates), rather than 'real' changes in > dynamics on the protein, could complicate analysis and give a false > impression of changes in the protein dynamics. > > I hope this helps. > > Best regards, > > > S?b =A0:) > > > On 11-02-24 10:45 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This can be tricky. =A0Can you estimate the percentage of monomer verses >> dimer? =A0Can you also estimate the amount of time the peptide binds to >> the receptor? =A0Do you have binding data for the NMR sample conditions? >> =A0 If the more than 90% of the receptor is bound to the peptide and the >> time bound to the receptor is significant, then you should be able to >> handle this with standard model-free analysis using a single diffusion >> tensor. =A0This will likely require data at 2 or more field strengths. >> Seb, have you worked with this situation? >> >> Regards, >> >> Edward >> >> >> On 23 February 2011 11:04, Maddy Strickland > wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I'v= e >>> already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. =A0I was wondering i= f I >>> added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the >>> new relaxation data? =A0Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequen= ces >>> etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? =A0It's a fairly stron= g >>> binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a >>> sphere... =A0What do you all think? >>> >>> >>> Madeleine Strickland >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> relax (http://nmr-relax.com) >>> >>> This is the relax-users mailing list >>> relax-users@domain.hid >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >>> reminder, or change your subscription options, >>> visit the list information page at >>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >>> > > -- > S?bastien Morin, Ph.D. > Postdoctoral fellow > S. Grzesiek NMR Laboratory > Biozentrum, Universit?t Basel > Basel, Switzerland > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:53:14 +0100 > From: "Edward d'Auvergne" > Subject: Re: ImporError > To: Min-Kyu Cho > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > Message-ID: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DEUC-KR > > Hi, > > I've now build the C modules using Python 2.6.6 with numpy 1.5.1, on > MS Windows 2000. =A0The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py26.zip and > you can find it at http://download.gna.org/relax. =A0Could you test this > one out? > > Cheers, > > Edward > > > 2011/2/24 Edward d'Auvergne : >> Hi, >> >> This is very puzzling :S =A0I will install Python 2.6 and make a new >> distribution archive. >> >> Bye, >> >> Edward >> >> >> On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho wrot= e: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I tried and got this error; >>> >>> >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0rela= x 1.3.10 >>> >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Molecular dynamics by NMR data a= nalysis >>> >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Au= vergne >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax developme= nt team >>> >>> This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute > under the >>> conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). =A0This program, > including all >>> modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no > warranty. =A0For >>> details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. >>> >>> Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be > accessed by >>> typing 'help' within the prompt. >>> >>> ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. (=3D Cannot find the > specified module). >>> Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C modules. >>> >>> relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> =A0File "", line 1, in >>> ImportError: No module named realx_fit >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got the same > error you showed me previously. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Min-Kyu >>> >>> +------------------------------+ >>> Cho, Min-Kyu >>> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >>> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 >>> Phone: 615-936-3757 =A0/ =A0Fax: 615-936-2211 >>> >>> >>> | > -----Original Message----- >>> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On >>> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >>> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM >>> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >>> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >>> | > Subject: Re: ImporError >>> | > >>> | > Hi, >>> | > >>> | > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit Windows >>> | > building environment and made a new distribution archive for relax >>> | > 1.3.10. =A0You can find it at the relax download location: >>> | > >>> | > http://download.gna.org/relax/ >>> | > >>> | > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. =A0Hopefully this o= ne >>> | > works! >>> | > >>> | > Regards, >>> | > >>> | > Edward >>> | > >>> | > >>> | > >>> | > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : >>> | > > Hi, >>> | > > >>> | > > This message is actually a little different. =A0The DLL load fail= ed >>> | > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists but = it >>> | > > cannot be loaded. =A0In the message I gave, the file does not exi= st. >>> | > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't work > out >>> | > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. =A0I > compiled >>> | > > this in a virtual machine. =A0It was Windows 2000 (a very old 32-= bit >>> | > > system, but should still produce things that run on all windows >>> | > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. =A0It could be that the > numpy >>> | > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too new. > =A0It >>> | > > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old Windo= ws >>> | > > software. =A0If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve tha= t for >>> | > > the next version of relax. =A0If it is the Windows version proble= m, >>> | > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that. >>> | > > >>> | > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator access, a= n >>> | > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ >>> | > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). =A0Otherwise you c= ould >>> | > > wait until the next relax version to see. =A0Actually, maybe I'll > try to >>> | > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and make a > new >>> | > > zip file for you to test. >>> | > > >>> | > > Regards, >>> | > > >>> | > > Edward >>> | > > >>> | > > >>> | > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho >>> | > wrote: >>> | > >> Yes, I got the same error message. >>> | > >> >>> | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> | > >> =A0File "", line 1, in >>> | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. =3D=3D> In Kore= an, >>> | > "Cannot find the module". >>> | > >> >>> | > >> Regards, >>> | > >> Min-Kyu >>> | > >> >>> | > >> +------------------------------+ >>> | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu >>> | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >>> | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-87= 25 >>> | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 =A0/ =A0Fax: 615-936-2211 >>> | > >> >>> | > >> >>> | > >> | > -----Original Message----- >>> | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid >>> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On >>> | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >>> | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM >>> | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >>> | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >>> | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError >>> | > >> | > >>> | > >> | > Hi, >>> | > >> | > >>> | > >> | > This is quite strange! =A0The Win32 distribution should have >>> | > worked :S >>> | > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? =A0What happens if you typ= e: >>> | > >> | > >>> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup >>> | > >> | > >>> | > >> | > Do you get something like: >>> | > >> | > >>> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup >>> | > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): >>> | > >> | > =A0 File "", line 1, in >>> | > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit >>> | > >> | > relax> >>> | > >> | > >>> | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S >>> | > >> | > >>> | > >> | > Bye, >>> | > >> | > >>> | > >> | > Edward >>> | > >> | > >>> | > >> | > >>> | > >> | > >>> | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> >>> | > >> | > wrote: >>> | > >> | > > Hi, >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0relax 1.3.10 >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Molecular dynamics = by NMR data analysis >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Copyright (C) 2001-200= 6 Edward d'Auvergne >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the re= lax > development team >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and >>> | > redistribute >>> | > >> | > under >>> | > >> | > > the >>> | > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). =A0Thi= s >>> | > program, >>> | > >> | > including >>> | > >> | > > all >>> | > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with > absolutely no >>> | > >> | > warranty. >>> | > >> | > > For >>> | > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interfa= ce >>> | > can be >>> | > >> | > accessed >>> | > >> | > > by >>> | > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the >>> | > >> | > corresponding C >>> | > >> | > > modules have not been compiled. >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > Hardware information: >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Machine: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 x86 >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Processor: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 x86 Family 6= Model 23 Stepping 6, >>> | > >> | > GenuineIntel >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > System information: >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0System: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Windows >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Release: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 post2008Se= rver >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 6.1.7600 >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Win32 version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 post2008Server 6= .1.7600 > Multiprocessor >>> | > Free >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Distribution: >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Full platform string: =A0 =A0Windows-post2008Server= -6.1.7600 >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > Software information: >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Architecture: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A032bit WindowsP= E >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02.6.5 >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python branch: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 tags/r265 >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python build: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0r265:79096, Ma= r 19 2010 21:48:26 >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python compiler: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 MSC v.1500 32 bit = (Intel) >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python implementation: =A0 CPython >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Python revision: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 79096 >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Numpy version: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1.5.1 >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Libc version: >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > Package =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Installed =A0 =A0 =A0 V= ersion =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Path >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > minfx =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0Unknown >>> | > D:\Programs\relax\minfx >>> | > >> | > > bmrblib =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0False >>> | > >> | > > numpy =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A01.5.1 > C:\Program >>> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy >>> | > >> | > > ScientificPython =A0 =A0 False >>> | > >> | > > wxPython =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True >>> | > >> | > > mpi4py =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 False >>> | > >> | > > epydoc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 False >>> | > >> | > > optparse =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A01.5.3 > C:\Program >>> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py >>> | > >> | > > Numeric =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0False >>> | > >> | > > readline =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True > C:\Program >>> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py >>> | > >> | > > profile =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True > C:\Program >>> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py >>> | > >> | > > bz2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0True > C:\Program >>> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd >>> | > >> | > > gzip =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True > C:\Program >>> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py >>> | > >> | > > os.devnull =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 True > C:\Program >>> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: >>> | > >> | > > =A0 =A0Relaxation curve fitting: False >>> | > >> | > > --- >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I > don't >>> | > need >>> | > >> | > it, but >>> | > >> | > > will try later with my data. >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > Regards, >>> | > >> | > > Min-Kyu >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > +------------------------------+ >>> | > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu >>> | > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. >>> | > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN > 37232- >>> | > 8725 >>> | > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 =A0/ =A0Fax: 615-936-2211 >>> | > >> | > > >>> | > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- >>> | > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid >>> | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On >>> | > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne >>> | > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM >>> | > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu >>> | > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid >>> | > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > Hi, >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from >>> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? =A0Could you r= un: >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? =A0The problem here is that the C >>> | > modules for >>> | > >> | > the >>> | > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is eit= her >>> | > not >>> | > >> | > compiled >>> | > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your >>> | > combination of >>> | > >> | > MS >>> | > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. > It may >>> | > be >>> | > >> | > that >>> | > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which ca= se >>> | > the 32- >>> | > >> | > bit C >>> | > >> | > > | > module will not work. =A0If you don't need to use this= part >>> | > of relax, >>> | > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have >>> | > created >>> | > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development > environment on >>> | > Windows >>> | > >> | > to >>> | > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be >>> | > possible to >>> | > >> | > > | > compile the module. >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > Regards, >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > Edward >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > >>> | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho >> | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> >>> | > >> | > > | > wrote: >>> | > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, >>> | > >> | > > | > > >>> | > >> | > > | > > >>> | > >> | > > | > > >>> | > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on >>> | > Window7; >>> | > >> | > > | > > >>> | > >> | > > | > > >>> | > >> | > > | > > >>> | > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is > unavailable, the >>> | > >> | > > | > corresponding C >>> | > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled. >>> | > >> | > > | > > >>> | > >> | > > | > > >>> | > >> | > > | > > >>> | > >> | > > | > > What should I do? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:38:11 -0000 Yes, the combination is so~ complicated. Though you found one solution. = :) Glad to be helpful in solving the problem Cheers, Min-Kyu +------------------------------+ Cho, Min-Kyu=20 Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > -----Original Message----- | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] = On | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 4:13 AM | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > Subject: Re: ImporError | >=20 | > Man, such a complicated system :S I just checked on GNU/Linux. | > Python 2.5 and 2.6 are compatible with each other. But Python 2.7 = is | > not, I get a "Segmentation fault"! Grrr, I have to make sure that I | > am not using Python 2.7, and the user is not either. Or maybe I can | > compile the C modules on Python 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 3.0, 3.1, and = 3.2 | > and have the correct one loaded at run time. Complicated! Anyway, | > thanks for checking this. | >=20 | > Cheers, | >=20 | > Edward | >=20 | >=20 | > On 24 February 2011 17:36, Min-Kyu Cho | > wrote: | > > Yes! It doesn't show any error message! | > > | > > For information, my laptop has Window7 Home Premium on Intel 32bit | > dual core. | > > | > > Thanks Eddy! | > > | > > Min-Kyu | > > | > > +------------------------------+ | > > Cho, Min-Kyu | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > > | > > | > -----Original Message----- | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > > | > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:53 AM | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError | > > | > | > > | > Hi, | > > | > | > > | > I've now build the C modules using Python 2.6.6 with numpy = 1.5.1, | > on | > > | > MS Windows 2000. The file is called = relax-1.3.10.Win32.py26.zip | > and | > > | > you can find it at http://download.gna.org/relax. Could you = test | > this | > > | > one out? | > > | > | > > | > Cheers, | > > | > | > > | > Edward | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > 2011/2/24 Edward d'Auvergne : | > > | > > Hi, | > > | > > | > > | > > This is very puzzling :S I will install Python 2.6 and make = a | > new | > > | > > distribution archive. | > > | > > | > > | > > Bye, | > > | > > | > > | > > Edward | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho kyu.cho@domain.hid> | > > | > wrote: | > > | > >> Hi, | > > | > >> | > > | > >> I tried and got this error; | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> relax 1.3.10 | > > | > >> | > > | > >> Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis | > > | > >> | > > | > >> Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne | > > | > >> Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development = team | > > | > >> | > > | > >> This is free software which you are welcome to modify and | > > | > redistribute under the | > > | > >> conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This | > program, | > > | > including all | > > | > >> modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with = absolutely no | > > | > warranty. For | > > | > >> details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. | > > | > >> | > > | > >> Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting = interface | > can be | > > | > accessed by | > > | > >> typing 'help' within the prompt. | > > | > >> | > > | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =EC=A7=80=EC=A0=95=EB=90=9C = =EB=AA=A8=EB=93=88=EC=9D=84 =EC=B0=BE=EC=9D=84 =EC=88=98 = =EC=97=86=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4. (=3D | > Cannot | > > | > find the specified module). | > > | > >> Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the = C | > modules. | > > | > >> | > > | > >> relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup | > > | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): | > > | > >> File "", line 1, in | > > | > >> ImportError: No module named realx_fit | > > | > >> | > > | > >> ------------------------------------ | > > | > >> But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I = got | > the same | > > | > error you showed me previously. | > > | > >> | > > | > >> Regards, | > > | > >> Min-Kyu | > > | > >> | > > | > >> +------------------------------+ | > > | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu | > > | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. | > > | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN = 37232- | > 8725 | > > | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > > | > >> | > -----Original Message----- | > > | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid | > > | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On | > > | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > > | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM | > > | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > > | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > > | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError | > > | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > Hi, | > > | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my = 32-bit | > Windows | > > | > >> | > building environment and made a new distribution = archive | > for | > > | > relax | > > | > >> | > 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download = location: | > > | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > http://download.gna.org/relax/ | > > | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. = Hopefully | > this | > > | > one | > > | > >> | > works! | > > | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > Regards, | > > | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > Edward | > > | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : | > > | > >> | > > Hi, | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL | > load | > > | > failed | > > | > >> | > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) | > exists | > > | > but it | > > | > >> | > > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file = does | > not | > > | > exist. | > > | > >> | > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so = I | > can't | > > | > work out | > > | > >> | > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version = problem. | > I | > > | > compiled | > > | > >> | > > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a = very | > old 32- | > > | > bit | > > | > >> | > > system, but should still produce things that run on = all | > windows | > > | > >> | > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could = be | > that the | > > | > numpy | > > | > >> | > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours = is | > too | > > | > new. It | > > | > >> | > > could also be the Windows version not being able to = run | > old | > > | > Windows | > > | > >> | > > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to | > solve | > > | > that for | > > | > >> | > > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows = version | > > | > problem, | > > | > >> | > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about = that. | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > If this is your own computer and you have = administrator | > access, | > > | > an | > > | > >> | > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ | > > | > >> | > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). = Otherwise | > you | > > | > could | > > | > >> | > > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, | > maybe I'll | > > | > try to | > > | > >> | > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building = system | > and make | > > | > a new | > > | > >> | > > zip file for you to test. | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > Regards, | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > Edward | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho > | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> | > > | > >> | > wrote: | > > | > >> | > >> Yes, I got the same error message. | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): | > > | > >> | > >> File "", line 1, in | > > | > >> | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: = =EC=A7=80=EC=A0=95=EB=90=9C =EB=AA=A8=EB=93=88=EC=9D=84 = =EC=B0=BE=EC=9D=84 =EC=88=98 =EC=97=86=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4. | > =3D=3D> In | > > | > Korean, | > > | > >> | > "Cannot find the module". | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> Regards, | > > | > >> | > >> Min-Kyu | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> +------------------------------+ | > > | > >> | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu | > > | > >> | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. | > > | > >> | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, = TN | > 37232- | > > | > 8725 | > > | > >> | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > >> | > >> | > -----Original Message----- | > > | > >> | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid | > > | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On | > > | > >> | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > > | > >> | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM | > > | > >> | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > > | > >> | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > > | > >> | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError | > > | > >> | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Hi, | > > | > >> | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution | > should have | > > | > >> | > worked :S | > > | > >> | > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens = if | > you | > > | > type: | > > | > >> | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup | > > | > >> | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Do you get something like: | > > | > >> | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup | > > | > >> | > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): | > > | > >> | > >> | > File "", line 1, in | > > | > >> | > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit | > > | > >> | > >> | > relax> | > > | > >> | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S | > > | > >> | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Bye, | > > | > >> | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Edward | > > | > >> | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho > | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> | > > | > >> | > >> | > wrote: | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Hi, | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > relax = 1.3.10 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR = data | > analysis | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 = Edward | > d'Auvergne | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the = relax | > development | > > | > team | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to | > modify | > > | > and | > > | > >> | > redistribute | > > | > >> | > >> | > under | > > | > >> | > >> | > > the | > > | > >> | > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License = (GPL). | > > | > This | > > | > >> | > program, | > > | > >> | > >> | > including | > > | > >> | > >> | > > all | > > | > >> | > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes = with | > > | > absolutely no | > > | > >> | > >> | > warranty. | > > | > >> | > >> | > > For | > > | > >> | > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and = scripting | > > | > interface | > > | > >> | > can be | > > | > >> | > >> | > accessed | > > | > >> | > >> | > > by | > > | > >> | > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is | > unavailable, | > > | > the | > > | > >> | > >> | > corresponding C | > > | > >> | > >> | > > modules have not been compiled. | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Hardware information: | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Machine: x86 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model = 23 | > Stepping 6, | > > | > >> | > >> | > GenuineIntel | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > System information: | > > | > >> | > >> | > > System: Windows | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Release: post2008Server | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server = 6.1.7600 | > > | > Multiprocessor | > > | > >> | > Free | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Distribution: | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Full platform string: = Windows-post2008Server- | > > | > 6.1.7600 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Software information: | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 = 2010 | > 21:48:26 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit = (Intel) | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python implementation: CPython | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python revision: 79096 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Libc version: | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Package Installed Version = Path | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > minfx True Unknown | > > | > >> | > D:\Programs\relax\minfx | > > | > >> | > >> | > > bmrblib False | > > | > >> | > >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1 | > C:\Program | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy | > > | > >> | > >> | > > ScientificPython False | > > | > >> | > >> | > > wxPython True | > > | > >> | > >> | > > mpi4py False | > > | > >> | > >> | > > epydoc False | > > | > >> | > >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3 | > C:\Program | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Numeric False | > > | > >> | > >> | > > readline True | > C:\Program | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py | > > | > >> | > >> | > > profile True | > C:\Program | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py | > > | > >> | > >> | > > bz2 True | > C:\Program | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd | > > | > >> | > >> | > > gzip True | > C:\Program | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py | > > | > >> | > >> | > > os.devnull True | > C:\Program | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False | > > | > >> | > >> | > > --- | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At = the | > moment, | > > | > I don't | > > | > >> | > need | > > | > >> | > >> | > it, but | > > | > >> | > >> | > > will try later with my data. | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Regards, | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Min-Kyu | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > +------------------------------+ | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, | > Nashville, TN | > > | > 37232- | > > | > >> | > 8725 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid | > > | > >> | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Hi, | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version = from | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? = Could | > you | > > | > run: | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is = that | > the C | > > | > >> | > modules for | > > | > >> | > >> | > the | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 | > rates is | > > | > either | > > | > >> | > not | > > | > >> | > >> | > compiled | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible = with | > your | > > | > >> | > combination of | > > | > >> | > >> | > MS | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy | > version. | > > | > It may | > > | > >> | > be | > > | > >> | > >> | > that | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, = in | > which | > > | > case | > > | > >> | > the 32- | > > | > >> | > >> | > bit C | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need = to | > use this | > > | > part | > > | > >> | > of relax, | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are = brave, | > I have | > > | > >> | > created | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a = development | > > | > environment on | > > | > >> | > Windows | > > | > >> | > >> | > to | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > = http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it | > should be | > > | > >> | > possible to | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > compile the module. | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Regards, | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Edward | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho = > | > >> | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > wrote: | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I = executed | > 'relax' | > > | > on | > > | > >> | > Window7; 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charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: relax-users@domain.hid X-BeenThere: relax-users@domain.hid X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussion about the program relax." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:40:54 -0000 I've just been working on another, more complicated, but more long term solution today. Future versions should be more capable of running on multiple Python versions. Thanks for the help in hunting down the problem. Cheers, Edward On 25 February 2011 20:37, Min-Kyu Cho wrote: > Yes, the combination is so~ complicated. Though you found one solution. := ) > Glad to be helpful in solving the problem > > Cheers, > Min-Kyu > > +------------------------------+ > Cho, Min-Kyu > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] = On > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 4:13 AM > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > > | > Man, such a complicated system :S I just checked on GNU/Linux. > | > Python 2.5 and 2.6 are compatible with each other. But Python 2.7 is > | > not, I get a "Segmentation fault"! Grrr, I have to make sure that I > | > am not using Python 2.7, and the user is not either. Or maybe I can > | > compile the C modules on Python 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2 > | > and have the correct one loaded at run time. Complicated! Anyway, > | > thanks for checking this. > | > > | > Cheers, > | > > | > Edward > | > > | > > | > On 24 February 2011 17:36, Min-Kyu Cho > | > wrote: > | > > Yes! It doesn't show any error message! > | > > > | > > For information, my laptop has Window7 Home Premium on Intel 32bit > | > dual core. > | > > > | > > Thanks Eddy! > | > > > | > > Min-Kyu > | > > > | > > +------------------------------+ > | > > Cho, Min-Kyu > | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725 > | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > > > | > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > > | > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:53 AM > | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > > | > > | > > | > Hi, > | > > | > > | > > | > I've now build the C modules using Python 2.6.6 with numpy 1.5.= 1, > | > on > | > > | > MS Windows 2000. The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py26.zi= p > | > and > | > > | > you can find it at http://download.gna.org/relax. Could you te= st > | > this > | > > | > one out? > | > > | > > | > > | > Cheers, > | > > | > > | > > | > Edward > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > 2011/2/24 Edward d'Auvergne : > | > > | > > Hi, > | > > | > > > | > > | > > This is very puzzling :S I will install Python 2.6 and make = a > | > new > | > > | > > distribution archive. > | > > | > > > | > > | > > Bye, > | > > | > > > | > > | > > Edward > | > > | > > > | > > | > > > | > > | > > On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > > | > wrote: > | > > | > >> Hi, > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> I tried and got this error; > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> relax 1.3.10 > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne > | > > | > >> Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development = team > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> This is free software which you are welcome to modify and > | > > | > redistribute under the > | > > | > >> conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This > | > program, > | > > | > including all > | > > | > >> modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely= no > | > > | > warranty. For > | > > | > >> details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface > | > can be > | > > | > accessed by > | > > | > >> typing 'help' within the prompt. > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =C1=F6=C1=A4=B5=C8 =B8=F0=B5= =E2=C0=BB =C3=A3=C0=BB =BC=F6 =BE=F8=BD=C0=B4=CF=B4=D9. (=3D > | > Cannot > | > > | > find the specified module). > | > > | > >> Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C > | > modules. > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup > | > > | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): > | > > | > >> File "", line 1, in > | > > | > >> ImportError: No module named realx_fit > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> ------------------------------------ > | > > | > >> But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got > | > the same > | > > | > error you showed me previously. > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> Regards, > | > > | > >> Min-Kyu > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> +------------------------------+ > | > > | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu > | > > | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > > | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 3723= 2- > | > 8725 > | > > | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> | > -----Original Message----- > | > > | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > > | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > > | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > > | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM > | > > | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > > | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > > | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > Hi, > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bi= t > | > Windows > | > > | > >> | > building environment and made a new distribution archive > | > for > | > > | > relax > | > > | > >> | > 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download location: > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > http://download.gna.org/relax/ > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. Hopeful= ly > | > this > | > > | > one > | > > | > >> | > works! > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > Regards, > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > Edward > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne : > | > > | > >> | > > Hi, > | > > | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL > | > load > | > > | > failed > | > > | > >> | > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) > | > exists > | > > | > but it > | > > | > >> | > > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file doe= s > | > not > | > > | > exist. > | > > | > >> | > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I > | > can't > | > > | > work out > | > > | > >> | > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version probl= em. > | > I > | > > | > compiled > | > > | > >> | > > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a ver= y > | > old 32- > | > > | > bit > | > > | > >> | > > system, but should still produce things that run on al= l > | > windows > | > > | > >> | > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be > | > that the > | > > | > numpy > | > > | > >> | > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours = is > | > too > | > > | > new. It > | > > | > >> | > > could also be the Windows version not being able to ru= n > | > old > | > > | > Windows > | > > | > >> | > > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to > | > solve > | > > | > that for > | > > | > >> | > > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows versi= on > | > > | > problem, > | > > | > >> | > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about t= hat. > | > > | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > > If this is your own computer and you have administrato= r > | > access, > | > > | > an > | > > | > >> | > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++ > | > > | > >> | > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherw= ise > | > you > | > > | > could > | > > | > >> | > > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, > | > maybe I'll > | > > | > try to > | > > | > >> | > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system > | > and make > | > > | > a new > | > > | > >> | > > zip file for you to test. > | > > | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > > Regards, > | > > | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > > Edward > | > > | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho | > > | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > > | > >> | > wrote: > | > > | > >> | > >> Yes, I got the same error message. > | > > | > >> | > >> > | > > | > >> | > >> Traceback (most recent call last): > | > > | > >> | > >> File "", line 1, in > | > > | > >> | > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: =C1=F6=C1=A4=B5=C8 =B8= =F0=B5=E2=C0=BB =C3=A3=C0=BB =BC=F6 =BE=F8=BD=C0=B4=CF=B4=D9. > | > =3D=3D> In > | > > | > Korean, > | > > | > >> | > "Cannot find the module". > | > > | > >> | > >> > | > > | > >> | > >> Regards, > | > > | > >> | > >> Min-Kyu > | > > | > >> | > >> > | > > | > >> | > >> +------------------------------+ > | > > | > >> | > >> Cho, Min-Kyu > | > > | > >> | > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > > | > >> | > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, = TN > | > 37232- > | > > | > 8725 > | > > | > >> | > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > > | > >> | > >> > | > > | > >> | > >> > | > > | > >> | > >> | > -----Original Message----- > | > > | > >> | > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > > | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM > | > > | > >> | > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Hi, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution > | > should have > | > > | > >> | > worked :S > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens i= f > | > you > | > > | > type: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Do you get something like: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last): > | > > | > >> | > >> | > File "", line 1, in > | > > | > >> | > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit > | > > | > >> | > >> | > relax> > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Bye, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > Edward > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho | > > | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > > | > >> | > >> | > wrote: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Hi, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > relax 1.3.= 10 > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR da= ta > | > analysis > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edwar= d > | > d'Auvergne > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax > | > development > | > > | > team > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to > | > modify > | > > | > and > | > > | > >> | > redistribute > | > > | > >> | > >> | > under > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > the > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (G= PL). > | > > | > This > | > > | > >> | > program, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > including > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > all > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes wi= th > | > > | > absolutely no > | > > | > >> | > >> | > warranty. > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > For > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt. > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and script= ing > | > > | > interface > | > > | > >> | > can be > | > > | > >> | > >> | > accessed > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > by > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt. > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is > | > unavailable, > | > > | > the > | > > | > >> | > >> | > corresponding C > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > modules have not been compiled. > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Hardware information: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Machine: x86 > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model = 23 > | > Stepping 6, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > GenuineIntel > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > System information: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > System: Windows > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Release: post2008Server > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600 > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.= 7600 > | > > | > Multiprocessor > | > > | > >> | > Free > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Distribution: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Ser= ver- > | > > | > 6.1.7600 > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Software information: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5 > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265 > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 = 2010 > | > 21:48:26 > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (= Intel) > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python implementation: CPython > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python revision: 79096 > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1 > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Libc version: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional): > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Package Installed Version = Path > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > minfx True Unknown > | > > | > >> | > D:\Programs\relax\minfx > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > bmrblib False > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1 > | > C:\Program > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > ScientificPython False > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > wxPython True > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > mpi4py False > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > epydoc False > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3 > | > C:\Program > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Numeric False > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > readline True > | > C:\Program > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > profile True > | > C:\Program > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > bz2 True > | > C:\Program > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > gzip True > | > C:\Program > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > os.devnull True > | > C:\Program > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > --- > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the > | > moment, > | > > | > I don't > | > > | > >> | > need > | > > | > >> | > >> | > it, but > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > will try later with my data. > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Regards, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Min-Kyu > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > +------------------------------+ > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S. > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, > | > Nashville, TN > | > > | > 37232- > | > > | > >> | > 8725 > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211 > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@domain.hid > | > > | > >> | > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@domain.hid] On > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@domain.hid > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Hi, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version fr= om > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Co= uld > | > you > | > > | > run: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > $ relax --info > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is t= hat > | > the C > | > > | > >> | > modules for > | > > | > >> | > >> | > the > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 > | > rates is > | > > | > either > | > > | > >> | > not > | > > | > >> | > >> | > compiled > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible wit= h > | > your > | > > | > >> | > combination of > | > > | > >> | > >> | > MS > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy > | > version. > | > > | > It may > | > > | > >> | > be > | > > | > >> | > >> | > that > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, = in > | > which > | > > | > case > | > > | > >> | > the 32- > | > > | > >> | > >> | > bit C > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to > | > use this > | > > | > part > | > > | > >> | > of relax, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning. > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brav= e, > | > I have > | > > | > >> | > created > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development > | > > | > environment on > | > > | > >> | > Windows > | > > | > >> | > >> | > to > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it > | > should be > | > > | > >> | > possible to > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > compile the module. > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Regards, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > Edward > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho | > > | > >> | > >> | > kyu.cho@domain.hid> > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > wrote: > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed > | > 'relax' > | > > | > on > | > > | > >> | > Window7; > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is > | > > | > unavailable, the > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > corresponding C > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled. > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > What should I do? > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > Cheers, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > Min-Kyu > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > _______________________________________________ > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > relax-users@domain.hid > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a > | > password > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > reminder, or change your subscription > | > options, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > visit the list information page at > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > _______________________________________________ > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > This is the relax-users mailing list > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > relax-users@domain.hid > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > visit the list information page at > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > | > > | > >> | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> | > >> > | > > | > >> | > >> > | > > | > >> | > > > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> _______________________________________________ > | > > | > >> relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> This is the relax-users mailing list > | > > | > >> relax-users@domain.hid > | > > | > >> > | > > | > >> To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > | > > | > >> reminder, or change your subscription options, > | > > | > >> visit the list information page at > | > > | > >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > | > > | > >> > | > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > _______________________________________________ > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com) > | > > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list > | > > relax-users@domain.hid > | > > > | > > To unsubscribe from this list, get a password > | > > reminder, or change your subscription options, > | > > visit the list information page at > | > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > | > > > >