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Posted by Sébastien Morin on April 04, 2011 - 16:19:
Hi Ed,

Very good for the info and update !


Séb  :)


On 11-04-04 3:26 PM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
Hi Seb,

You need to have a look at the v3.1 file at:

http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu/ftp/pub/bmrb/entry_lists/nmr-star3.1

The Rex and J(w) values are missing in this version too.  In the
Order_parameter saveframe (equivalent to the v2.1 S2_parameters
saveframe), you'll see that the models are consistent.  We did however
agree, after a detailed and complete discussion, to a new model naming
scheme for all different model-free model possibilities:

https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00022.html
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00024.html
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00027.html
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00028.html
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00038.html
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00039.html

In the end, from memory I thought we decided that the model_fit tag
would consist of the following:

""
"S2"
"S2,te"
"S2,Rex"
"S2,te,Rex"
"S2f,S2,ts"
"S2f,tf,S2,ts"
"S2f,S2,ts,Rex"
"S2f,tf,S2,ts,Rex"
"Rex"

and that no other values would be accepted, it would be a closed
enumeration, I think the terminology is called.  There are many v3.1
entries that would need to be updated for this.

Regards,

Edward




On 4 April 2011 15:03, Sébastien Morin<sebastien.morin.1@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
Hi Eldon,

Entry 6838 indeed does not contain any Rex, but should as these were
deposited:

    https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2011-02/msg00005.html
    # Message-id:<4D4841D0.1040602@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Moreover, there are still other missing data, i.e. reduced spectral density
values (J0, JwN, JwH at 500, 600 and 800 MHz), in this entry that were
deposited but never incorporated:

    https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2011-02/msg00006.html
    # Message-id:<4D484485.5090806@xxxxxxxxx>

I just had a look at the entry
(http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu/data_library/generate_summary?6838) and realized
the "Model_fit" tags in the "S2 Parameters" saveframe were filled. This is
good, but leads me to another consideration which probably has already been
discussed (sorry if this is the case)... In some entries as 6838,
"Model_fit" is a model name (e.g. "m3"), whereas in other entries, it is a
list of parameters used for the model (e.g. "S2, Rex", which is equivalent
to "m3"). Should these be standardized ? If yes, how ?

Thanks for the follow-up on the different entries, especially on 6838 !
Best regards,


Séb  :)




On 11-04-01 6:38 PM, Eldon Ulrich wrote:
Hi,

The order of the tags is fixed, so what will need to be done is move the
data columns to match the appropriate tag. It appears that the entry
does not contain any Rex data, if the Model_fit information and
following data are offset by two columns. The entry has been modified
and should appear tomorrow.

Thanks,
Eldon

On 4/1/11 8:12 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
Hi,

The 6838 entry also has the tag names mixed up in the Order_parameter
saveframe.  The following change is necessary, otherwise the Rex
errors are the model-free model names!

diff -urd --ignore-all-space --ignore-space-change
--ignore-blank-lines ./bmr6838.str
../../../../../../bmr3.1_files/bmr6838.str
--- ./bmr6838.str     2011-04-01 05:01:00.000000000 +0200
+++ ../../../../../../bmr3.1_files/bmr6838.str        2011-04-01
15:11:00.000000000 +0200
@@ -7712,14 +7712,14 @@
       _Order_param.Tau_f_val_fit_err
       _Order_param.Tau_s_val
       _Order_param.Tau_s_val_fit_err
-    _Order_param.Rex_val
-    _Order_param.Rex_val_fit_err
       _Order_param.Model_free_sum_squared_errs
       _Order_param.Model_fit
       _Order_param.Sf2_val
       _Order_param.Sf2_val_fit_err
       _Order_param.Ss2_val
       _Order_param.Ss2_val_fit_err
+    _Order_param.Rex_val
+    _Order_param.Rex_val_fit_err
       _Order_param.SH2_val
       _Order_param.SH2_val_fit_err
       _Order_param.SN2_val

Regards,

Edward


On 1 April 2011 15:06, Edward d'Auvergne<edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>    wrote:
Hi,

It is now fixed.  But I noticed that the Rex data from bmr6838.str in
the Order_parameter saveframe is missing?

Regards,

Edward



On 31 March 2011 19:02, Eldon Ulrich<elu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>    wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the catch. The entry has been fixed and should be available
tomorrow.

Eldon

On 3/31/11 3:21 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
Hi,

I noticed also that entry 15183 was recently updated with a fix to the
sequence numbering. However there are still some problems with the
residue names in one of the Order_parameter saveframes.  The following
is the diff:


diff -urd --ignore-all-space --ignore-space-change
--ignore-blank-lines ./bmr15183.str
../../../../../../bmr3.1_files/bmr15183.str
--- ./bmr15183.str      2011-03-30 05:02:47.000000000 +0200
+++ ../../../../../../bmr3.1_files/bmr15183.str 2011-03-30
11:47:09.000000000 +0200
@@ -1562,14 +1562,14 @@
       107    .   1    2    117    117    THR    N    N    .   0.981
0.01     1.00E-09    2.90E-10    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
       108    .   1    2    118    118    ASP    N    N    .   0.957
0.001    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
       109    .   1    2    119    119    GLU    N    N    .   0.91
0.001    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
-    110    .   1    2    120    120    GLN    N    N    .   0.967
0.001    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
+    110    .   1    2    120    120    GLU    N    N    .   0.967
0.001    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
       111    .   1    2    121    121    VAL    N    N    .   0.972
0.003    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
       112    .   1    2    122    122    ASP    N    N    .   0.962
0        1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
       113    .   1    2    123    123    GLU    N    N    .   0.953
0        1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
       114    .   1    2    125    125    ILE    N    N    .   0.972
0.002    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
       115    .   1    2    126    126    ARG    N    N    .   0.957
0.002    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
       116    .   1    2    127    127    GLU    N    N    .   0.981
0.009    1.00E-09    5.20E-10    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
-    117    .   1    2    128    128    SER    N    N    .   0.953
0.009    1.00E-09    1.80E-10    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
+    117    .   1    2    128    128    ALA    N    N    .   0.953
0.009    1.00E-09    1.80E-10    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
       118    .   1    2    129    129    ASP    N    N    .   0.707
0.008    1.57E-11    1.00E-12    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
       119    .   1    2    130    130    ILE    N    N    .   0.962
0.009    2.16E-11    1.06E-11    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
       120    .   1    2    131    131    ASP    N    N    .   0.91
0.01     5.00E-14    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1

Regards,

Edward



On 30 March 2011 17:28, Eldon Ulrich<elu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>      wrote:
Yea, I just noticed that 6474 and 6577 were not quite right as I was
double
checking the released files, not sure what happened.

Thanks,
Eldon

On 3/30/11 7:17 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
Oh, the new v3.1 bmr6577.str entry is missing the S2 error as well.
This data is in the v2.1 files but not the new v3.1 files.

Regards,

Edward



On 30 March 2011 14:14, Edward d'Auvergne<edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
   wrote:
Hi,

I'm just looking at the new v3.1 entries and noticed that
bmr6474.str
is missing the S2 and Rex errors.

Regards,

Edward


On 30 March 2011 11:06, Edward d'Auvergne<edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
   wrote:
Hi,

The values should all be ps for 17041, 17046, and 17047.  The
numbers
for tau_e, tau_f, and tau_s range from about 10 ps to 2000-4000
ps.
So it can be seen from the data that the three tags in all these
entries should be:

    _Order_parameter_list.Tau_e_val_units               ps
    _Order_parameter_list.Tau_f_val_units               ps
    _Order_parameter_list.Tau_s_val_units               ps

For the attachments, these are not attached to the email, but
rather
attached to the link https://gna.org/task/?6438.

Regards,

Edward


On 29 March 2011 17:15, Eldon Ulrich<elu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi,

I am finishing the edits on the first batch of v2.1 and v3.1
files
today. In
looking at the related entries 17041, 17046, and 17047, one has a
tau
e
value of ns (17041) and the others are ps (17046 and 17047). I
changed
17041
to ps, although I did not see this change in your list. Although,
I
may
have
missed the suggested change. Could you please review these three
entries
once they are released, hopefully tomorrow or Thursday.

Also, This email did not seem to have the attachments. I have a
feeling
I
may have lost a followup email, but could you resend the
attachments.

I will start to look at the blacklisted entries after finishing
the
less
offensive problems.

Thanks,
Eldon

On 3/24/11 5:43 AM, Edward d Auvergne wrote:
Follow-up Comment #10, task #6438 (project relax):

This set of diffs for the v2.1 and v3.1 files now includes the
relaxation
data BMRB entries (with no model-free data).  The following
entries
have
been
blacklisted, as relax cannot use them:

# The blacklist.
blacklist = []                              # Init.
blacklist = blacklist + ['bmr16933.str']     # Rubbish relxn2.2
data!
blacklist = blacklist + ['bmr4697.str']     # Unknown
spectrometer
frequency.
blacklist = blacklist + ['bmr5520.str', 'bmr5521.str']     #
Entity
problem
with 2 molecules.
blacklist = blacklist + ['bmr5715.str', 'bmr6758.str',
'bmr16639.str']
#
Sequence corruption.
blacklist = blacklist + ['bmr6332.str', 'bmr7205.str']     #
Totally
mangled
sequence!

Most of these require work on the BMRB side.  The model-free
entries
read
into relax include:

4096, 4245, 4267, 4364, 4365, 4366, 4390, 4689, 4970, 5153,
5154,
5330,
5331,
5548, 5549, 5550, 5808, 5841, 5991, 6243, 6466, 6470, 6474,
6577,
6838,
7126,
7139, 7219, 15097, 15144, 15183, 15184, 15185, 15186, 15187,
15188,
15191,
15230, 15445, 15451, 15536, 15562, 15910, 16392, 16925, 16931,
17010,
17012,
17013, 17041, 17046, 17047, 17069

The purely relaxation data entries read into relax are:

4376, 4671, 4762, 4763, 4764, 4801, 4870, 5076, 5079, 5080,
5131,
5272,
5505,
5518, 5519, 5569, 5687, 5707, 5720, 5746, 5762, 5801, 5818,
5839,
5858,
5995,
5996, 6060, 6092, 6182, 6494, 6495, 6579, 6880, 6881, 6899,
7021,
7035,
7036,
7056, 7088, 7112, 7190, 7208, 7288, 7414, 7415, 7432, 15014,
15064,
15065,
15066, 15067, 15252, 15254, 15255, 15364, 15408, 15437, 15441,
15481,
15486,
15521, 15541, 15578, 15650, 15655, 15703, 15708, 15728, 15766,
15793,
15795,
15830, 15831, 15832, 15852, 15923, 15975, 15989, 16033, 16034,
16069,
16234,
16342, 16360, 16426, 16480, 16482, 16483, 16485, 16523, 16657,
16659,
16845,
16904, 16907, 17018, 17080, 17263, 17266, 17308

The first attached file is the v2.1 diff, the second is the v3.1
diff:

(file #12700, file #12701)
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