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Posted by Maddy Strickland on January 10, 2011 - 12:00:
Hi Edward,

They have now changed it to peak heights, I have checked by exporting some
data.  All you need to do is update by clicking 'project>updates' and it's
now sorted out - to check it's updated correctly, when you export a Sparky
peak list it should say height instead of intensity.  Glad that's sorted
out!  Won't take too long to convert now...

Maddy


On Mon, January 10, 2011 10:52 am, Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
Oh, if it is volumes, then that would be a problem.  Hopefully it is
easy for them to sort out at their end, and also easy for you to
convert your old data to heights.

Regards,

Edward


On 10 January 2011 11:50, Maddy Strickland <M.Strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Edward,

I have sent an email to them, so it should get sorted out.  I checked
the
numbers exported against the peak lists within the program, where it
shows
both height and volume and it looks like it is exporting volume
unfortunately.

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [bug #17341] Compatibility with CCPN Analysis2.1
(fwd)]
From:    "Edward d'Auvergne" <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:    Mon, January 10, 2011 9:51 am
To:      "Maddy Strickland" <M.Strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:      relax-users@xxxxxxx
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Hi,

I would guess that this problem is not so bad as it seems.  It is
probably a superficial bug in the conversion to Sparky format, but
that it actually contains the peak heights from Analysis rather than
the volumes as it indicates.  This will have to be clarified with the
CCPN people though.

Regards,

Edward



On 6 January 2011 11:28, Maddy Strickland <M.Strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Jo,

Thanks for that, you're right is it exporting the volume rather than
the
peak height.  I definitely will email them as this error has undone
about
a year's worth of work for me!  I suppose it will be quicker the second
time round though.  Looking forwards to recalculating T1, T2, NOE and
Lipari-Szabo for 4 proteins at 2 fields!

Maddy

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Subject: Re: [bug #17341] Compatibility with CCPN Analysis2.1 (fwd)
From:    "Jolyon Claridge" <jolyon.claridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:    Wed, January 5, 2011 5:34 pm
To:      "Edward d'Auvergne" <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:      "M Strickland, Science 04" <M.Strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        "relax-users@xxxxxxx" <relax-users@xxxxxxx>
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Hi,

It would appear that the Format Converter in Analysis is exporting the
peak volume rather than the height and I think you are using box sum
integration, hence the bx. This is a bug in the Format Converter as
Analysis is able to measure both height and volume. Can you send it in
to the CCPNMR mailing list as a bug? As an aside, is it really
necessary
to convert the files to sparky format at all? I usually just use the
'export' function directly from the peaklist editing window in Analysis
and then create a text file which relax will be able to handle without
any further trouble.

Regards,
Jo

 Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
Hi,

It shouldn't be a problem at all.  I have no idea what the bx means
then either, it's strange that they put that there.  I hope it really
is a hight integration that it's doing :S  Well, if you have all
spectra duplicated, then you will be able to have an error estimate
per spectrum.  For a sanity check, this should be similar to the value
of the RMSD of the baseplane noise in each spectra.

Regards,

Edward


On 20 December 2010 14:47, M Strickland, Science 04
<M.Strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I don't know what the bx means, I've been removing it in my final
files.
Analysis just gives the option between height and intensity and I
pick
height.  Unfortunately, I don't know how they measure it, but I
generally
get duplicate spectra for all my results, and at two field strengths,
so it
shouldn't be an issue for my calculations?

---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Date: 17 December 2010 20:33 +0100
From: Edward d'Auvergne <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
Cc: m.strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, relax-devel@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [bug #17341] Compatibility with CCPN Analysis2.1

Hi Maddy,

I'm in the process of adding this data to the relax test suite, and
noticed that the integrated values have 'bx' after it.  Would you
know
what that is?  Are you using box integration, or measuring peak
heights?  Can CCPN Analysis measure peak heights?  If you are using
box integration without duplicate spectra, this significantly
complicates the analysis as you will need to know the exact number of
points used in each box.  Peak heights are a much better way of
determining the peak intensities as one advantage is that the errors
are much easier to ascertain.

Regards,

Edward



On 17 December 2010 16:48, anonymous
<NO-REPLY.INVALID-ADDRESS@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

URL:
 <http://gna.org/bugs/?17341>

                Summary: Compatibility with CCPN Analysis2.1
                Project: relax
           Submitted by: None
           Submitted on: Fri 17 Dec 2010 03:48:15 PM UTC
               Category: relax's source code
               Severity: 2 - Minor
               Priority: 5 - Normal
                 Status: None
                Privacy: Public
            Assigned to: None
        Originator Name: Madeleine Strickland
       Originator Email: M.Strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Open/Closed: Open
        Discussion Lock: Any
                Release: 1.3.5
       Operating System: GNU/Linux

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Details:

When using FormatConverter (with CCPN Analysis2.1) you can output
'Sparky'
format peak lists for use with curve fitting in Relax.  These have a
different format to those expected by Relax1.3.5.  Differences are:

Relax:  Two header lines, Analysis:  One header line
Relax:  V1504N-HN,        Analysis:  V1504N-V1504HN
Relax:  Peaks in order,   Analysis:  Random order of peaks

Attached: R1.py script, lists for two residues, log file of output
from
Relax, sequence





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