Thanks Seb and Edward,
The off rate is 13.8*10^-3 s-1, on rate is 5.3*10^6 M-1s-1. It's been
developed to be a good binder (Kd=2.6 nm) - does that seem alright? I
suppose we won't know until we look at the data - we have access to two
fields - 600 and 900, which we'll use for free and bound forms. Hopefully
it should bind strongly enough. If not, we're looking for stronger
binders anyway, so we could use one of those when it comes along.
Thanks
Maddy
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4. Re: Binding studies (S?bastien Morin)
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From: "Maddy Strickland" <M.Strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi everyone,
I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I've
already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. I was wondering if I
added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the
new relaxation data? Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequences
etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? It's a fairly strong
binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a
sphere... What do you all think?
Madeleine Strickland
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:11:42 +0100
From: "Edward d'Auvergne" <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: ImporError
To: Min-Kyu Cho <min-kyu.cho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: relax-users@xxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTi=a3WCe2m5rjfMdSScAjVo0hmKchce0P1bcJo54@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi,
This is very puzzling :S I will install Python 2.6 and make a new
distribution archive.
Bye,
Edward
On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho <min-kyu.cho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
I tried and got this error;
relax 1.3.10
Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis
Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne
Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team
This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute
under the
conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program,
including all
modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no
warranty. For
details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt.
Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be
accessed by
typing 'help' within the prompt.
ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. (= Cannot find the
specified module).
Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C modules.
relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
ImportError: No module named realx_fit
------------------------------------
But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got the same
error you showed me previously.
Regards,
Min-Kyu
+------------------------------+
Cho, Min-Kyu
Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S.
Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725
Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx] On
| > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne
| > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM
| > To: Cho, Min-Kyu
| > Cc: relax-users@xxxxxxx
| > Subject: Re: ImporError
| >
| > Hi,
| >
| > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit Windows
| > building environment and made a new distribution archive for relax
| > 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download location:
| >
| > http://download.gna.org/relax/
| >
| > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. Hopefully this one
| > works!
| >
| > Regards,
| >
| > Edward
| >
| >
| >
| > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
| > > Hi,
| > >
| > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL load failed
| > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists but it
| > > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file does not exist.
| > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't work out
| > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. I compiled
| > > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a very old 32-bit
| > > system, but should still produce things that run on all windows
| > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be that the numpy
| > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too new. It
| > > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old Windows
| > > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve that for
| > > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows version problem,
| > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that.
| > >
| > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator access, an
| > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++
| > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherwise you could
| > > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, maybe I'll
try to
| > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and make a new
| > > zip file for you to test.
| > >
| > > Regards,
| > >
| > > Edward
| > >
| > >
| > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho <min-kyu.cho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > wrote:
| > >> Yes, I got the same error message.
| > >>
| > >> Traceback (most recent call last):
| > >> File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
| > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. ==> In Korean,
| > "Cannot find the module".
| > >>
| > >> Regards,
| > >> Min-Kyu
| > >>
| > >> +------------------------------+
| > >> Cho, Min-Kyu
| > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S.
| > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725
| > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> | > -----Original Message-----
| > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx
| > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx] On
| > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne
| > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM
| > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu
| > >> | > Cc: relax-users@xxxxxxx
| > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Hi,
| > >> | >
| > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should have
| > worked :S
| > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you type:
| > >> | >
| > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Do you get something like:
| > >> | >
| > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup
| > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last):
| > >> | > File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
| > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit
| > >> | > relax>
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Bye,
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Edward
| > >> | >
| > >> | >
| > >> | >
| > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho <min-
| > kyu.cho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > >> | > wrote:
| > >> | > > Hi,
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help:
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > relax 1.3.10
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne
| > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development
team
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and
| > redistribute
| > >> | > under
| > >> | > > the
| > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This
| > program,
| > >> | > including
| > >> | > > all
| > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with
absolutely no
| > >> | > warranty.
| > >> | > > For
| > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt.
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface
| > can be
| > >> | > accessed
| > >> | > > by
| > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt.
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the
| > >> | > corresponding C
| > >> | > > modules have not been compiled.
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Hardware information:
| > >> | > > Machine: x86
| > >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6,
| > >> | > GenuineIntel
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > System information:
| > >> | > > System: Windows
| > >> | > > Release: post2008Server
| > >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600
| > >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600
Multiprocessor
| > Free
| > >> | > > Distribution:
| > >> | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Software information:
| > >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE
| > >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5
| > >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265
| > >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 21:48:26
| > >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)
| > >> | > > Python implementation: CPython
| > >> | > > Python revision: 79096
| > >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1
| > >> | > > Libc version:
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional):
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Package Installed Version Path
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > minfx True Unknown
| > D:\Programs\relax\minfx
| > >> | > > bmrblib False
| > >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy
| > >> | > > ScientificPython False
| > >> | > > wxPython True
| > >> | > > mpi4py False
| > >> | > > epydoc False
| > >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py
| > >> | > > Numeric False
| > >> | > > readline True
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py
| > >> | > > profile True
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py
| > >> | > > bz2 True
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd
| > >> | > > gzip True
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py
| > >> | > > os.devnull True
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules:
| > >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False
| > >> | > > ---
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I
don't
| > need
| > >> | > it, but
| > >> | > > will try later with my data.
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Regards,
| > >> | > > Min-Kyu
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > +------------------------------+
| > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu
| > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S.
| > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-
| > 8725
| > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > | > -----Original Message-----
| > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx
| > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx] On
| > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne
| > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM
| > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu
| > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@xxxxxxx
| > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > Hi,
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from
| > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run:
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > $ relax --info
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that the C
| > modules for
| > >> | > the
| > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is either
| > not
| > >> | > compiled
| > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your
| > combination of
| > >> | > MS
| > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version. It
may
| > be
| > >> | > that
| > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which case
| > the 32-
| > >> | > bit C
| > >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use this part
| > of relax,
| > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning.
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have
| > created
| > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development environment on
| > Windows
| > >> | > to
| > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled:
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be
| > possible to
| > >> | > > | > compile the module.
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > Regards,
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > Edward
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho <min-
| > >> | > kyu.cho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > >> | > > | > wrote:
| > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy,
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on
| > Window7;
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable,
the
| > >> | > > | > corresponding C
| > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled.
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > What should I do?
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > Cheers,
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > Min-Kyu
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > _______________________________________________
| > >> | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com)
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > This is the relax-users mailing list
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:45:39 +0100
From: "Edward d'Auvergne" <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Binding studies
To: Maddy Strickland <M.Strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: relax-users@xxxxxxx, S?bastien M <sebastien@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi,
This can be tricky. Can you estimate the percentage of monomer verses
dimer? Can you also estimate the amount of time the peptide binds to
the receptor? Do you have binding data for the NMR sample conditions?
If the more than 90% of the receptor is bound to the peptide and the
time bound to the receptor is significant, then you should be able to
handle this with standard model-free analysis using a single diffusion
tensor. This will likely require data at 2 or more field strengths.
Seb, have you worked with this situation?
Regards,
Edward
On 23 February 2011 11:04, Maddy Strickland <M.Strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I've
already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. ?I was wondering if I
added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the
new relaxation data? ?Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequences
etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? ?It's a fairly strong
binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a
sphere... ?What do you all think?
Madeleine Strickland
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:13:41 +0100
From: S?bastien Morin <sebastien.morin.1@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Binding studies
To: Edward d'Auvergne <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Maddy Strickland <M.Strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"relax-users@xxxxxxx" <relax-users@xxxxxxx>, S?bastien M
<sebastien@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <4D662F55.2040609@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi,
I have not worked with this situation.
However, I agree that binding kinetics should be known (on and off
rates) and a majority of bound complex should exist over time, otherwise
the situation might be tricky since some contribution from unbound
protein might arise (with a shorter correlation time, and potentially
different dynamics). Also, contribution from potential conformational
exchange caused by binding and unbinding of the ligand (depending on the
exchange rate, i.e. on and off rates), rather than 'real' changes in
dynamics on the protein, could complicate analysis and give a false
impression of changes in the protein dynamics.
I hope this helps.
Best regards,
S?b :)
On 11-02-24 10:45 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
Hi,
This can be tricky. Can you estimate the percentage of monomer verses
dimer? Can you also estimate the amount of time the peptide binds to
the receptor? Do you have binding data for the NMR sample conditions?
If the more than 90% of the receptor is bound to the peptide and the
time bound to the receptor is significant, then you should be able to
handle this with standard model-free analysis using a single diffusion
tensor. This will likely require data at 2 or more field strengths.
Seb, have you worked with this situation?
Regards,
Edward
On 23 February 2011 11:04, Maddy Strickland<M.Strickland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm moving on to looking at dynamics of binding to a receptor which I've
already studied using Relax for Lipari-Szabo data. I was wondering if I
added some unlabelled peptide to the 15n receptor how I could study the
new relaxation data? Can I still use Relax and the same pulse sequences
etc. or do I need a program specific to binding? It's a fairly strong
binder, but it would render the receptor more of a cylinder than a
sphere... What do you all think?
Madeleine Strickland
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Postdoctoral fellow
S. Grzesiek NMR Laboratory
Biozentrum, Universit?t Basel
Basel, Switzerland
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:53:14 +0100
From: "Edward d'Auvergne" <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: ImporError
To: Min-Kyu Cho <min-kyu.cho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: relax-users@xxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTinSCzfnBoBOPzJvN5bgF2ETuqJqagdkT6i5ovFi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR
Hi,
I've now build the C modules using Python 2.6.6 with numpy 1.5.1, on
MS Windows 2000. The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py26.zip and
you can find it at http://download.gna.org/relax. Could you test this
one out?
Cheers,
Edward
2011/2/24 Edward d'Auvergne <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Hi,
This is very puzzling :S I will install Python 2.6 and make a new
distribution archive.
Bye,
Edward
On 22 February 2011 22:30, Min-Kyu Cho <min-kyu.cho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
I tried and got this error;
relax 1.3.10
Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis
Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne
Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax development team
This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute
under the
conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This program,
including all
modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with absolutely no
warranty. For
details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt.
Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be
accessed by
typing 'help' within the prompt.
ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. (= Cannot find the
specified module).
Relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, try compiling the C modules.
relax> from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
ImportError: No module named realx_fit
------------------------------------
But with ' from maths_fns.realx_fit import setup', now I got the same
error you showed me previously.
Regards,
Min-Kyu
+------------------------------+
Cho, Min-Kyu
Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S.
Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725
Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx] On
| > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne
| > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:58 PM
| > To: Cho, Min-Kyu
| > Cc: relax-users@xxxxxxx
| > Subject: Re: ImporError
| >
| > Hi,
| >
| > I've updated to Python 2.7.1 and numpy 1.5.1 on my 32-bit Windows
| > building environment and made a new distribution archive for relax
| > 1.3.10. You can find it at the relax download location:
| >
| > http://download.gna.org/relax/
| >
| > The file is called relax-1.3.10.Win32.py27.zip. Hopefully this one
| > works!
| >
| > Regards,
| >
| > Edward
| >
| >
| >
| > 2011/2/22 Edward d'Auvergne <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
| > > Hi,
| > >
| > > This message is actually a little different. The DLL load failed
| > > message means that the file (maths_fns/relax_fit.dll) exists but it
| > > cannot be loaded. In the message I gave, the file does not exist.
| > > Unfortunately the message is not too informative, so I can't work
out
| > > if it is a Windows problem or a software version problem. I
compiled
| > > this in a virtual machine. It was Windows 2000 (a very old 32-bit
| > > system, but should still produce things that run on all windows
| > > versions), with Python 2.5 and numpy 1.1. It could be that the
numpy
| > > versions are too different, mine is too old and yours is too new.
It
| > > could also be the Windows version not being able to run old Windows
| > > software. If it is the numpy problem, I might try to solve that for
| > > the next version of relax. If it is the Windows version problem,
| > > unfortunately there is really nothing I can do about that.
| > >
| > > If this is your own computer and you have administrator access, an
| > > option is to try to install scons and MS Visual C++
| > > (http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html). Otherwise you could
| > > wait until the next relax version to see. Actually, maybe I'll
try to
| > > upgrade Python and numpy on my Windows building system and make a
new
| > > zip file for you to test.
| > >
| > > Regards,
| > >
| > > Edward
| > >
| > >
| > > On 22 February 2011 18:42, Min-Kyu Cho <min-kyu.cho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > wrote:
| > >> Yes, I got the same error message.
| > >>
| > >> Traceback (most recent call last):
| > >> File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
| > >> ImportError: DLL load failed: ??? ??? ?? ? ????. ==> In Korean,
| > "Cannot find the module".
| > >>
| > >> Regards,
| > >> Min-Kyu
| > >>
| > >> +------------------------------+
| > >> Cho, Min-Kyu
| > >> Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S.
| > >> Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37232-8725
| > >> Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> | > -----Original Message-----
| > >> | > From: edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx
| > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx] On
| > >> | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne
| > >> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:45 AM
| > >> | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu
| > >> | > Cc: relax-users@xxxxxxx
| > >> | > Subject: Re: ImporError
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Hi,
| > >> | >
| > >> | > This is quite strange! The Win32 distribution should have
| > worked :S
| > >> | > Are you sure it was this version? What happens if you type:
| > >> | >
| > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Do you get something like:
| > >> | >
| > >> | > relax> from maths_fns.relax_fit import setup
| > >> | > Traceback (most recent call last):
| > >> | > File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
| > >> | > ImportError: No module named relax_fit
| > >> | > relax>
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Hmmm, what is Windows doing here :S
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Bye,
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Edward
| > >> | >
| > >> | >
| > >> | >
| > >> | > On 22 February 2011 17:18, Min-Kyu Cho <min-
| > kyu.cho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > >> | > wrote:
| > >> | > > Hi,
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Here is the output with >> relax --help:
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > relax 1.3.10
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne
| > >> | > > Copyright (C) 2006-2011 the relax
development team
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and
| > redistribute
| > >> | > under
| > >> | > > the
| > >> | > > conditions of the GNU General Public License (GPL). This
| > program,
| > >> | > including
| > >> | > > all
| > >> | > > modules, is licensed under the GPL and comes with
absolutely no
| > >> | > warranty.
| > >> | > > For
| > >> | > > details type 'GPL' within the relax prompt.
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface
| > can be
| > >> | > accessed
| > >> | > > by
| > >> | > > typing 'help' within the prompt.
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is unavailable, the
| > >> | > corresponding C
| > >> | > > modules have not been compiled.
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Hardware information:
| > >> | > > Machine: x86
| > >> | > > Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6,
| > >> | > GenuineIntel
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > System information:
| > >> | > > System: Windows
| > >> | > > Release: post2008Server
| > >> | > > Version: 6.1.7600
| > >> | > > Win32 version: post2008Server 6.1.7600
Multiprocessor
| > Free
| > >> | > > Distribution:
| > >> | > > Full platform string: Windows-post2008Server-6.1.7600
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Software information:
| > >> | > > Architecture: 32bit WindowsPE
| > >> | > > Python version: 2.6.5
| > >> | > > Python branch: tags/r265
| > >> | > > Python build: r265:79096, Mar 19 2010 21:48:26
| > >> | > > Python compiler: MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)
| > >> | > > Python implementation: CPython
| > >> | > > Python revision: 79096
| > >> | > > Numpy version: 1.5.1
| > >> | > > Libc version:
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Python packages (most are optional):
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Package Installed Version Path
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > minfx True Unknown
| > D:\Programs\relax\minfx
| > >> | > > bmrblib False
| > >> | > > numpy True 1.5.1
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\numpy
| > >> | > > ScientificPython False
| > >> | > > wxPython True
| > >> | > > mpi4py False
| > >> | > > epydoc False
| > >> | > > optparse True 1.5.3
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\optparse.py
| > >> | > > Numeric False
| > >> | > > readline True
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\site-packages\readline.py
| > >> | > > profile True
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\profile.py
| > >> | > > bz2 True
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\DLLs\bz2.pyd
| > >> | > > gzip True
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\gzip.py
| > >> | > > os.devnull True
C:\Program
| > >> | > > Files\Python26\lib\os.pyc
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Compiled relax C modules:
| > >> | > > Relaxation curve fitting: False
| > >> | > > ---
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > It is clear that I don't have C library. At the moment, I
don't
| > need
| > >> | > it, but
| > >> | > > will try later with my data.
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > Regards,
| > >> | > > Min-Kyu
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > +------------------------------+
| > >> | > > Cho, Min-Kyu
| > >> | > > Rm. 5110D MRBIII, 465 21st Ave S.
| > >> | > > Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN
37232-
| > 8725
| > >> | > > Phone: 615-936-3757 / Fax: 615-936-2211
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > | > -----Original Message-----
| > >> | > > | > From: edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx
| > >> | > [mailto:edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx] On
| > >> | > > | > Behalf Of Edward d'Auvergne
| > >> | > > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:21 AM
| > >> | > > | > To: Cho, Min-Kyu
| > >> | > > | > Cc: relax-users@xxxxxxx
| > >> | > > | > Subject: Re: ImporError
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > Hi,
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > Are you using the Win32 compiled version from
| > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html? Could you run:
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > $ relax --info
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > and copy the result? The problem here is that the C
| > modules for
| > >> | > the
| > >> | > > | > relaxation curve-fitting of the R1 and R2 rates is either
| > not
| > >> | > compiled
| > >> | > > | > or the compiled version is incompatible with your
| > combination of
| > >> | > MS
| > >> | > > | > Windows version, Python version, and numpy version.
It may
| > be
| > >> | > that
| > >> | > > | > you are using a 64-bit version of Windows, in which case
| > the 32-
| > >> | > bit C
| > >> | > > | > module will not work. If you don't need to use this part
| > of relax,
| > >> | > > | > you can safely ignore this warning.
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > However, if you do need it and you are brave, I have
| > created
| > >> | > > | > instructions on how to set up a development
environment on
| > Windows
| > >> | > to
| > >> | > > | > allow the C modules to be compiled:
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > http://www.nmr-relax.com/windows_devel.html
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > With scons and MS Visual C++ installed, it should be
| > possible to
| > >> | > > | > compile the module.
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > Regards,
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > Edward
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | >
| > >> | > > | > On 22 February 2011 06:13, Min-Kyu Cho <min-
| > >> | > kyu.cho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > >> | > > | > wrote:
| > >> | > > | > > Hi Eddy,
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > I got the following error when I executed 'relax' on
| > Window7;
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > ImportError: relaxation curve fitting is
unavailable, the
| > >> | > > | > corresponding C
| > >> | > > | > > module have not been compiled.
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > What should I do?
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > Cheers,
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > > Min-Kyu
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
| > >> | > > | > >
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| > >> | > > | > > relax (http://nmr-relax.com)
| > >> | > > | > >
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