mailRe: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 „Lion“


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Posted by Martin Ballaschk on April 02, 2012 - 10:15:
Hi,

please find the bug report #19606 at https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?19606

Cheers
Martin


On 29.03.2012, at 18:10, Edward d'Auvergne wrote:

Hi,

Unfortunately not yet - I'm still trying to work out how I can
reproduce this problem!  On my system, also 10.6.8, the relax DMG file
execution is working fine.  So I have to work out what is breaking it.
Development on the Mac is difficult though, and it takes much longer
than on other systems.  Are you using the DMG distribution file as
well?  Could you give more information (copy and paste messages, etc.)
about the problem?  The more information I have, the easier it will be
for me to find the exact point of failure and fix it.  Also, what is
your system architecture?  It should be one of ppc, ppc64, i386, or
x86_64.  If you or Martin could create a bug report with all
information possible, this would also be of great help (see
https://gna.org/bugs/?func=additem&group=relax).

Cheers,

Edward


On 29 March 2012 18:02, Andrew Olson <muchemfu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Was the MacOSX relax error ever solved?  I am running MacOS 10.6.8 and am
getting the same error.

________________________________
From: Edward d'Auvergne <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Martin Ballaschk <ballaschk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: relax-users@xxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 „Lion“

Hi,

Sorry, I forgot to mention how you perform the temperature
calibration.  It is mentioned at the end of one of the links I sent,
though it is quite buried.  You essentially run one of the experiments
but scaled down to say ~20-30 min (just decrease the number of scans
or transients).  This should be enough time for the system to be fully
stabilised, temperature wise.  You have your MeOH in the spectrometer
during this and then, at the very end of the experiment, run a 90
proton pulse (I'm not sure how you do that on Bruker, but on Varian
you can queue the 2 experiments to run directly one after the other)
and then measure the H signal.  You might also be able to play with
your phase cycling so that the MeOH signal is not cancelled but rather
added during the R2 and R1 experiments, and then you should have a row
of MeOH signal in your 2D.

Regards,

Edward


On 23 March 2012 11:09, Martin Ballaschk <ballaschk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear relax-users,

I am just beginning to record and analyze relaxation data for MF analysis.
So far we collected data at 600 MHz, and a second data set at 750MHz is
planned.

I have two questions I hope you can help me with:

1) Temperature calibration

We use single-scan interleaving to account for a constant temperature
during the whole experimental series. We also use methanol to calibrate 
the
spectrometer's temperature sensors. As we found out, every magnet is
different and the on-screen parameters cannot be trusted. We have tables
where  This procedure is not done with the T2 measurements in mind, 
however.

Isn't it also important that R1 and R2 measurements have the same
temperature – how do you check for that?

How can I check differences in sample heating between different magnets
due to different air-flow etc? How to compensate for these temperature
differences? Do I need different pulse programs that account for 
temperature
differences for every spectrometer? Or is the difference insignificant 
once
the spectrometers have been calibrated?


2)
In Mac OS X ("Lion", 10.7.3), the self-contained relax Application bundle
is crashing and is giving just an "relax error" and the option to
"terminate" or "open the Console".

I can run the “relax” script which is sitting inside
relax.app/Contents/Resources/ and I get a prompt, but only after 
installing
numpy via Macports. If I don't, relax complains that numpy is not 
installed.

After installing wxPython 2.9 via the official installer "./relax" -g is
attempting to start (I can see the splash screen), but then halts with the
errors.

Interestingly, I found out today that it seems to run just fine if I run
the relax binary in Contents/MacOS by dropping it onto Terminal.app!
(I did not test this without numpy and wXPython seperately installed.)

What's your experience? What do you think is broken – my system (10.7) or
something inside the application bundle?



Cheers
Martin

***

RELAX ERROR MESSAGES FROM THE CONSOLE

15.03.12 15:19:15,538 relax: relax Error
15.03.12 15:19:17,667 com.apple.launchd.peruser.501:
([0x0-0x14e14e].com.nmr-relax.relax[70595]) Exited with code: 255
15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax: <_FuncPtr object
at
0x101b0dc80>
15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax: Traceback (most
recent call last):
15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:   File
"/Applications/relax.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", line 179, in
<module>
15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:
_argv_emulation()
15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:   File
"/Applications/relax.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", line 177, in
_argv_emulation
15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:
_get_argvemulator().mainloop()
15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:   File
"/Applications/relax.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", line 101, in
mainloop
15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:     stoptime =
Evt.TickCount() + timeout
15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax: AttributeError:
'module' object has no attribute 'TickCount'

--
Martin Ballaschk
AG Schmieder
Leibniz-Institut für Molekulare Pharmakologie
Robert-Rössle-Str. 10
13125 Berlin
ballaschk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Tel.: +49-30-94793-234/315
Büro: A 1.26
Labor: C 1.10


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Leibniz-Institut für Molekulare Pharmakologie
Robert-Rössle-Str. 10
13125 Berlin
ballaschk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Tel.: +49-30-94793-234/315
Büro: A 1.26
Labor: C 1.10




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