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Posted by Edward d'Auvergne on February 27, 2015 - 08:26:
Hi Sam,

For relax, you simply input the peak lists.  Using the
spectrum.read_intensities user function
(http://www.nmr-relax.com/manual/spectrum_read_intensities.html), you
can load in peak intensities - either height or volumes - from many
different spectral software programs.  This includes Sparky, XEasy,
NMRView, NMRPipe seriesTab, and a generic column formatted text file
(the Bruker Dynamics Centre format is also supported).  relax is
designed so that users never have to perform format conversions to
input or output data.  If a format conversion is necessary, I would
insist on a new support request being created and an example data file
attached to it.  Then the support for the format can be quickly added
to relax (by first implementing system tests).

The problem with conversions is the chance of data loss or a mistake
being made.  But the conversions in relax are all extensively and
repeatedly checked via the comprehensive test suite, so that you can
be sure that no mistakes are made:

$ relax --test-suite --time

But just with all other analysis software, you should always be on the
look out for problems, as all software contains bugs.  So software can
be treated as a black box, but always be vigilant and sceptical of all
results.  Oh, thanks to advances implemented by Troels, you can now
simultaneously load all peak lists with one spectrum.read_intensities
user function call.  This is especially useful if you are using the
GUI.

Regards,

Edward




On 26 February 2015 at 23:58, Sze Chan <samuelsw.chan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

Currently, I'm collecting more NMR data so I haven't had much time to 
analyze the data.

Usually, I extract the raw peak heights at each CPMG Hz for each residue 
(assignments saved in my ccpnmr project) so I don't have a peaklist for my 
CPMG data. The same is done for my fast time scale dynamics (T1/T2/NOE).

So I was wondering if there was a way to set up the files in a tabular 
format by hand? (an example of such a table would be very helpful). I was 
hoping if there was some way to fit my dispersion data just on a per 
residue basis, similar to how another NMR program, NESSY, takes in data.

Thank you for your time and patience, as an undergrad a lot of the 
information and navigation is quite overwhelming so its great to have some 
help!

Regards,
Sam
________________________________________
From: edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx <edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx> on behalf of 
Edward d'Auvergne <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:32 PM
To: Troels Emtekær Linnet
Cc: Sze Chan; relax-users@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Help with setting up relax files

Hi Sam,

I was wondering if you still had problems with the loading of peak
heights for relaxation dispersion in relax?  It should be pretty
flexible and handle most formats you throw at relax.  If you have a
peak list format that is not supported, it would be appreciated if you
could create a support request (https://gna.org/support/?group=relax,
https://gna.org/support/?func=additem&group=relax).  If you attach a
truncated peak list to the request, slightly randomised if you would
like to keep the data private, then that file could be used to quickly
implement support for the format.

Cheers,

Edward




On 15 February 2015 at 10:58, Troels Emtekær Linnet
<tlinnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Sam.



Try to have a look on the wiki:
http://wiki.nmr-relax.com/Category:Tutorials

http://wiki.nmr-relax.com/Tutorial_for_Relaxation_dispersion_analysis_cpmg_fixed_time_recorded_on_varian_as_fid_interleaved

Maybe you can figure out something.

If you need more help.

Make a suppert request
https://gna.org/support/?group=relax

Upload an example peak list for each CPMG frq.
Make a file, listing filename for peaklist and corresponding CPMG frq.

You need to determine the error of your experiments.
If you have peak heights which are replicate/triplicate, then this is fine.
Or else you need to measure RMSD of the noise in the spectrum.

What is also:
Relaxation dispersion CPMG constant time delay T (in s).
The NMR field strength of the spectrum. (750 MHz ?)

Best
Troels


2015-02-15 1:09 GMT+01:00 Sze Chan <samuelsw.chan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Hello all,


I am an undergrad that is new to the field of NMR and I was hoping to get
some basic help in setting up my data for analysis.


For my CPMG relaxation dispersion experiments, I usually process my data
through NMR pipe and then extract the peak heights through ccpnmr with 
each
plane as the CPMG frequency. In the end for each residue, I get the peak
height at various CPMG frequencies.


However, I'm not sure how to format my table or know what software I can
use to format my data so that I can input it into relax. If anyone has any
help, I'd greatly appreciate it since I'm very new to the field and all 
the
analysis that comes with it.


Regards,

Sam


Department of Biochemistry - University of Toronto
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