Re: r2863 - /branches/test_suite/test_suite/unit_tests/unit_test_runner.py -- November 21, 2006 - 17:44

Edward d'Auvergne wrote:

> It's about time they overhauled Tk.  I haven't been keeping current
> with Tcl/Tk development, I thought that that had stalled.  Version 8.5
> can't come soon enough!  Unfortunately at http://wiki.tcl.tk/2237 they
> say that Tk3D only runs on Unix/Linux, and I don't know how capable it
> is.
>
> Edward
the tk3d you maybe thinking of is a way of rendering widgets so they 
look 3d?? (I had that confusion when I fiorst looked at some of the tk docs)
there is also http://public.kitware.com/VTK/what-is-vtk.php which is 
extremely capable

regards
gary

> On 11/22/06, Gary S. Thompson <garyt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/22/06, Gary S. Thompson <garyt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Are you having a play with the unittest GUI?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I was just having a go to see that it worked. The version I was 
> > using,
> > >> however, is under the wrong license (I stole it from zope I think) 
> > so it
> > >> was just a test of the code/concept  and will most probably disappear
> > >> again.
> > >>
> > >> > If so, is it any good?
> > >> > Pity it's in Tk though,
> > >>
> > >> Why the problem with tk? Tk is nice (mostly)  and is present in all
> > >> python distributions (note the prejudice, I am an old tcl/tk 
> > programmer)
> > >
> > >
> > > There's nothing wrong with Tk.  Wish was the first widget set I played
> > > with, and I do think it is very useful for certain applications.  Tk
> > > does need to be modernised though, it desperately needs font
> > > antialiasing!  And the Tk widgets could do with a lot of polish.
> > >
> >
> > Have you looked at version 8.5 a lot of this is going in there... beta
> > testing is supposed to be fairly soon ;-)
> >
> > http://wiki.tcl.tk/12753
> > Themed Tk (a.k.a. Ttk <http://wiki.tcl.tk/14796> in the core). TIP#248
> > [81 <http://tip.tcl.tk/248>]
> >
> > http://www.markroseman.com/tcl/guide85.html
> > *Antialiased text under X11.* This allows Tk to fit in much better with
> > modern Linux desktops; the lack of antialiased fonts has been a frequent
> > criticism recently. Based on Xft. (don't lnow about mac or windows)
> >
> > regards
> > gary
> >
> > > I ported an early version of relax (0.2 which was called 'mf' back
> > > then) to use the Gtk widget set.  I called it 'xmf' but unfortunately
> > > I never added it to the relax repository.  It was pretty pathetic -
> > > not destroying flexibility while implementing a GUI is a very hard
> > > job.  Qt support in Python was and still is light years ahead of Tk,
> > > Gtk, etc.  Implementing a complex GUI for relax would significantly
> > > benefit from using the advanced Qt bindings.  For 3D opengl work, for
> > > example assembling data pipes (when runs are renamed to pipes) to
> > > create the equivalent of a script, the stable Qt bindings would be
> > > better for sanity of the developers :)
> > >
> > > Edward
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> >
> >
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> > Dr Gary Thompson
> > Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology,
> > University of Leeds, Astbury Building,
> > Leeds, LS2 9JT, West-Yorkshire, UK             Tel. +44-113-3433024
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Dr Gary Thompson
Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology,
University of Leeds, Astbury Building,
Leeds, LS2 9JT, West-Yorkshire, UK             Tel. +44-113-3433024
email: garyt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                   Fax  +44-113-2331407
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