Hi, This follows on from discussions with Troels (both private and at http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.nmr.relax.devel/4304/focus=4308). For the graphics for Sparky, NMRPipe, etc. to be used for the GUI menus, buttons, and user function wizard pages, as well as the user manual, I think we need to discuss the options on this list. I went to the Sparky homepage (http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/sparky/) and realised that there were no graphics which we can use. Sparky has no icons, program logo, or anything! The only thing that can be done is to take screenshots. I have already done this for the spectrum user function wizard graphics (see graphics/wizards/spectrum/). There should be no problems including screenshots of various programs with relax. Coming up with a wizard graphic constrained to be 200 pixels wide is difficult though. And for the 16x16, 22x22, 32x32, 48x48 and 128x128 icons, sceenshots are impossible. I then went to NMRPipe (http://spin.niddk.nih.gov/NMRPipe/). What do you think of the graphic http://spin.niddk.nih.gov/NMRPipe/nmrpipe_logo_border.jpg? I have a feeling that the quality is not good enough for use in relax. It looks like an ancient low quality 256 indexed colour GIF file turned into a JPG file. The wizard graphics, or any GUI graphics, need transparent backgrounds to blend into the widgets. This is not always the case, but it is preferred. But I don't think we can take out the black background cleanly as it is a grey-black gradient, and the JPG fuzziness damage is too high. It may be easier to create something like the graphics/wizards/pipe*.png graphics instead, using Inkscape to generate the field lines and add the "NMRPipe" text. What do you think? If you look at the graphics/wizards/dipole_pair/VectorFieldPlot.py script (a GPLv3+ licensed script bundled with relax), you will see that we can generate physically realistic magnetic field lines to use in any graphics. So we can combine a relax pipe graphic, with the hue changed to match Frank's colours, the realistic magnetic field lines, and the "NMRPipe" text to create a much higher quality graphic. That will also allow use to create a 16x16 icon with no text and maybe 2 field lines. We can then email Frank the graphic for his opinion. I also realised that the icon when you go to http://spin.niddk.nih.gov/NMRPipe/, the favicon.ico file, has nothing to do with NMRPipe! It's a beaker full of some blue-green liquid. So for the 16x16, 22x22, 32x32, 48x48 and 128x128 icons, we would need to think of something else. Note that the 16x16 icon is brutal on graphics - it has to be insanely simple with no text. This size is used for the menu items in the GUI. The 22x22 and 32x32 graphics are used for the buttons in the GUI. And the 128x128 icons are used for the user manual listing of user functions. The 48x48 icons are reserved for future uses. I think we need to discuss which graphics we use. Regards, Edward