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Posted by Boeszoermenyi, Andras on November 26, 2014 - 22:19:
Hi Edward,

I would be very glad to help out with that. 

My input data format is sparky peak lists (I export them from ccpnmr, but 
that doesn't make a difference))

The other part of the input data is a sequence file. I have problems loading 
a cyana generated structure. Not sure how it would behave with a structure 
outputted from ccpnmr or other programs. The structure is not in the pdb yet.

I have two spin systems in there, but for testing, we can throw out the NHe 
from my tryptophan indole rings.

For my test set, I can even calculate rates for inversion recovery and 
saturation recovery in ccpnmr. The reason that I changed to relax is, that 
the ccpnmr fitting routine is not robust enough for other sets.

I'm very happy to send you real peak lists, or do they have to be synthetic 
for some reason? I could make real peak lists without tryptophan NHes if that 
helps. For synthetic peak lists, I have no experience in making those. But I 
think I could figure that out.

I am attaching one set of relax that I did on this system with inversion 
recovery to the task and if this is what you are looking for, then I can also 
send you R1 values for inversion and saturation recovery fitting of this set 
in ccpnmr.

I did have a problem with the experiment that I ran on relax though. It does 
converge and produces beautiful values, but the Rx values are negative. Which 
doesn't make any sense to me. The pattern is exactly as it should be, but the 
values are simply wrong. Do you have an idea what could be going on there?

Best regards,
Andras 
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From: edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx [edward.dauvergne@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Edward d'Auvergne [edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:04 PM
To: Andras Boeszoermenyi
Cc: Boeszoermenyi, Andras; relax-devel@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [sr #3195] Fitting of saturation recovery experiment

Hi Andras,

I was wondering if you were interested in helping out with the
inversion-recovery task at https://gna.org/task/index.php?7415 ?  What
is your input data format, i.e. which peak list format are you using?
Would it be possible to create synthetic peak lists containing with a
single spin system whereby you have calculated what the peak
intensities are based on your equation and some I0 and Rx parameter
values?  If this could be done, it could be added to the relax test
suite directories and form the basis of an implementation.  It could
easily then be used to create a system test which checks that the
fitting occurs as expected.  Then implementing this should be easy.

Cheers,

Edward



On 26 November 2014 at 16:59, Andras Boeszoermenyi
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                 Summary: Fitting of saturation recovery experiment
                 Project: relax
            Submitted by: andras
            Submitted on: Wed 26 Nov 2014 03:59:50 PM UTC
                Category: Feature request
                Priority: 5 - Normal
                Severity: 3 - Normal
                  Status: None
             Assigned to: None
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             Open/Closed: Open
         Discussion Lock: Any
        Operating System: Mac OS

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Details:

Hi,

would it be possible to add an option to fit saturation recovery experiments
to the existing 'exp' and 'inv' options in relax_fit?

The formula should look like this:

I(t) =  I0*(1 - exp(−R1*t))

Best regards,
Andras Boeszoermenyi




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