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Posted by Venkat V on August 10, 2012 - 20:51:
Hi,

I use CoRD client on a MAC 10.5 and use tunnelblick VPN to log on to the linux machines.
The 1.3.16 is on linux x86_64 CentOS5.
Will try the newer wx_python and see.

Venkat

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Edward d'Auvergne <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,

I'm a bit confused, the RDP server is a MS Windows only product
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Desktop_Protocol).  Did you
install 1.3.16 on Windows or Linux?  I'm almost 100% sure that the
problem is, however, the wxPython installation.  Please try to compile
the 2.9 version and test that instead.  As the internal tests of the
wxPython demos fail, then there will be no way to ever make the
wxPython execute the relax GUI.  These tests must, without question,
pass otherwise there is no point even trying the relax GUI as the GUI
will never work.  If you can compile the latest 2.9 version and run
the same tests using the demos for that exact 2.9 version, then the
relax GUI should instantly be visible via SSH, VNC, RDP, telnet, etc.
I would recommend VNC or RDP though as this is much faster for modern
apps.

Regards,

Edward


On 9 August 2012 19:38, Venkat V <venkat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Edward,
>
>
> To make sure wx_python has issues I tried the following:
>
> I tried the earlier version of relax 1.3.16 via ssh and that seg faults.
> But relax version 1.3.16 works when use RDP and try it with the same
> wx_python.
>
>
> venkat
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Edward d'Auvergne <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Those are very strange errors!  It might be an indication that the
>> wxPython compilation failed.  Does the version.py file that came with
>> the wxPython demos match the wxPython version you have installed?  I
>> would suggest trying the 2.9 wxPython versions, or having a close look
>> at the compilation messages.  In any case, your wxPython installation
>> does not appear to be in a healthy state.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Edward
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 August 2012 17:15, Venkat V <venkat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi Edward,
>> >
>> > Here is the o/p of the wx tests.
>> >
>> > $ which python
>> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/bin/python
>> > sbtest@vm-11 [centos-5-x86_64] ~/test/relax/wxtest/demo
>> >  $ python run.py Ge
>> > GenericButtons.py  GenericDirCtrl.py  GetMouseState.py
>> > sbtest@vm-11 [centos-5-x86_64] ~/test/relax/wxtest/demo
>> >  $ python run.py Gene
>> > GenericButtons.py  GenericDirCtrl.py
>> > sbtest@vm-11 [centos-5-x86_64] ~/test/relax/wxtest/demo
>> >  $ python run.py GenericButtons.py
>> > Python 2.7.2 (default, Oct 27 2011, 16:10:58)
>> > [GCC 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-51)]
>> > wx.version: 2.8.12.1 (gtk2-unicode)
>> > pid: 32382
>> > Traceback (most recent call last):
>> >   File "run.py", line 162, in <module>
>> >     main(sys.argv)
>> >   File "run.py", line 156, in main
>> >     app = RunDemoApp(name, module, useShell)
>> >   File "run.py", line 50, in __init__
>> >     wx.App.__init__(self, redirect=False)
>> >   File
>> >
>> > "/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode/wx/_core.py",
>> > line 7981, in __init__
>> >     self._BootstrapApp()
>> >   File
>> >
>> > "/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode/wx/_core.py",
>> > line 7555, in _BootstrapApp
>> >     return _core_.PyApp__BootstrapApp(*args, **kwargs)
>> >   File "run.py", line 57, in OnInit
>> >     self.InitInspection()  # for the InspectionMixin base class
>> > AttributeError: 'RunDemoApp' object has no attribute 'InitInspection'
>> > sbtest@vm-11 [centos-5-x86_64] ~/test/relax/wxtest/demo
>> >  $ python run.py StaticBitmap.py
>> > Python 2.7.2 (default, Oct 27 2011, 16:10:58)
>> > [GCC 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-51)]
>> > wx.version: 2.8.12.1 (gtk2-unicode)
>> > pid: 32429
>> > Traceback (most recent call last):
>> >   File "run.py", line 162, in <module>
>> >     main(sys.argv)
>> >   File "run.py", line 156, in main
>> >     app = RunDemoApp(name, module, useShell)
>> >   File "run.py", line 50, in __init__
>> >     wx.App.__init__(self, redirect=False)
>> >   File
>> >
>> > "/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode/wx/_core.py",
>> > line 7981, in __init__
>> >     self._BootstrapApp()
>> >   File
>> >
>> > "/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode/wx/_core.py",
>> > line 7555, in _BootstrapApp
>> >     return _core_.PyApp__BootstrapApp(*args, **kwargs)
>> >   File "run.py", line 57, in OnInit
>> >     self.InitInspection()  # for the InspectionMixin base class
>> > AttributeError: 'RunDemoApp' object has no attribute 'InitInspection'
>> > sbtest@vm-11 [centos-5-x86_64] ~/test/relax/wxtest/demo
>> >  $ python run.py ComboCtrl.py
>> > Python 2.7.2 (default, Oct 27 2011, 16:10:58)
>> > [GCC 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-51)]
>> > wx.version: 2.8.12.1 (gtk2-unicode)
>> > pid: 32476
>> > Traceback (most recent call last):
>> >   File "run.py", line 162, in <module>
>> >     main(sys.argv)
>> >   File "run.py", line 156, in main
>> >     app = RunDemoApp(name, module, useShell)
>> >   File "run.py", line 50, in __init__
>> >     wx.App.__init__(self, redirect=False)
>> >   File
>> >
>> > "/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode/wx/_core.py",
>> > line 7981, in __init__
>> >     self._BootstrapApp()
>> >   File
>> >
>> > "/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode/wx/_core.py",
>> > line 7555, in _BootstrapApp
>> >     return _core_.PyApp__BootstrapApp(*args, **kwargs)
>> >   File "run.py", line 57, in OnInit
>> >     self.InitInspection()  # for the InspectionMixin base class
>> > AttributeError: 'RunDemoApp' object has no attribute 'InitInspection'
>> > sbtest@vm-11 [centos-5-x86_64] ~/test/relax/wxtest/demo
>> >
>> >
>> > sincerely,
>> >
>> > Venkat
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Edward d'Auvergne <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Do you have the wx demos?  You can download them from
>> >>
>> >> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/wxpython/wxPython-demo-2.8.12.1.tar.bz2
>> >> and run these directly.  The results of the following tests are
>> >> important:
>> >>
>> >> $ /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/bin/python run.py
>> >> GenericButtons.py
>> >> $ /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/bin/python run.py StaticBitmap.py
>> >> $ /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/bin/python run.py ComboCtrl.py
>> >>
>> >> As you have compiled this version of wxPython and it seems to be
>> >> broken, I would recommend downloading the latest 2.9.4.0 version and
>> >> trying that.  I have extensively tested with 2.9.3.1 and everything
>> >> works very nicely, and the Mac OS X distribution dmg file has this
>> >> version built in.  Note that the 2.9 versions are much simpler to
>> >> compile and install.  The 2.8 version I have tested is 2.8.11.0,
>> >> therefore I would suggest that wxPython has introduced a bug between
>> >> 2.8.11.0 and 2.8.12.1.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Edward
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> P. S.  If the 2.9 versions work, the report from the wxPython 2.8
>> >> demos would still be very useful for any other relax users who
>> >> encounter the same problem.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 8 August 2012 21:11, Venkat V <venkat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > Hi ,
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is how wx-python was installed.
>> >> >
>> >> > ./configure --prefix=/programs/x86_64-linux/wxpython/2.8.12.1
>> >> > --enable-unicode --with-gtk --with-gnomeprint --with-opengl
>> >> > --with-libjpeg=builtin --with-libpng=builtin --with-libtiff=builtin
>> >> > --with-zlib=builtin --enable-optimize --enable-debug_flag
>> >> > --enable-rpath=/programs/x86_64-linux/wxpython/2.8.12.1/lib
>> >> > make && make install
>> >> > cd contrib
>> >> > make && make install
>> >> > cd ../wxPython
>> >> > export PATH=programs/system/x86_64-linux/wxpython/2.8.12.1/bin:$PATH
>> >> > python setup.py install
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Output of relax --info
>> >> >
>> >> > relax --info
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >                                             relax 2.1.0
>> >> >
>> >> >                               Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis
>> >> >
>> >> >                              Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward
>> >> > d'Auvergne
>> >> >                          Copyright (C) 2006-2012 the relax
>> >> > development
>> >> > team
>> >> >
>> >> > This is free software which you are welcome to modify and
>> >> > redistribute
>> >> > under
>> >> > the conditions of the
>> >> > GNU General Public License (GPL).  This program, including all
>> >> > modules,
>> >> > is
>> >> > licensed under the GPL
>> >> > and comes with absolutely no warranty.  For details type 'GPL' within
>> >> > the
>> >> > relax prompt.
>> >> >
>> >> > Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be
>> >> > accessed
>> >> > by typing 'help' within
>> >> > the prompt.
>> >> >
>> >> > Processor fabric:  Uni-processor.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hardware information:
>> >> >     Machine:                 x86_64
>> >> >     Processor:               x86_64
>> >> >     Endianness:              little
>> >> >     Total RAM size:          2011 Mb
>> >> >     Total swap size:         509 Mb
>> >> >
>> >> > Operating system information:
>> >> >     System:                  Linux
>> >> >     Release:                 2.6.18-194.17.1.el5
>> >> >     Version:                 #1 SMP Wed Sep 29 12:50:31 EDT 2010
>> >> >     GNU/Linux version:       CentOS 5.8 Final
>> >> >     Distribution:            redhat 5.8 Final
>> >> >     Full platform string:
>> >> > Linux-2.6.18-194.17.1.el5-x86_64-with-redhat-5.8-Final
>> >> >
>> >> > Python information:
>> >> >     Architecture:            64bit ELF
>> >> >     Python version:          2.7.2
>> >> >     Python branch:
>> >> >     Python build:            default, Oct 27 2011 16:10:58
>> >> >     Python compiler:         GCC 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-51)
>> >> >     Libc version:            glibc 2.2.5
>> >> >     Python implementation:   CPython
>> >> >     Python revision:
>> >> >     Python executable:
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/bin/python
>> >> >     Python flags:            sys.flags(debug=0, py3k_warning=0,
>> >> > division_warning=0, division_new=0, inspect=0, interactive=0,
>> >> > optimize=0,
>> >> > dont_write_bytecode=0, no_user_site=0, no_site=0,
>> >> > ignore_environment=0,
>> >> > tabcheck=0, verbose=0, unicode=0, bytes_warning=0)
>> >> >     Python float info:
>> >> > sys.float_info(max=1.7976931348623157e+308,
>> >> > max_exp=1024, max_10_exp=308, min=2.2250738585072014e-308,
>> >> > min_exp=-1021,
>> >> > min_10_exp=-307, dig=15, mant_dig=53, epsilon=2.220446049250313e-16,
>> >> > radix=2, rounds=1)
>> >> >     Python module path:      ['/programs/x86_64-linux/relax/2.1.0',
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg',
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip-1.0.2-py2.7.egg',
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib-1.1.0-py2.7-linux-x86_64.egg',
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/yolk-0.4.1-py2.7.egg',
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/MySQL_python-1.2.3-py2.7-linux-x86_64.egg',
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/VTK-5.6.1-py2.7.egg',
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/MDAnalysis-0.7.5.1-py2.7-linux-x86_64.egg',
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/GridDataFormats-0.2.2-py2.7.egg',
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/networkx-1.6-py2.7.egg',
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/MDAnalysisTests-0.7.5.1-py2.7.egg',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/ccp4/6.2.0/ccp4-6.2.0/share/python',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/ccpnmr/2.2.1/ccpnmr2.2/python',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/csrosetta/20120626/python',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/eman/1.9/lib',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/eman2/20120806/lib',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/eman2/20120806/bin',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/haddock/2.1',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python27.zip',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/plat-linux2',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/lib-tk',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/lib-old',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages',
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PIL',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages',
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode',
>> >> > '/programs/x86_64-linux/relax/2.1.0/extern/scientific_python/linux2']
>> >> >
>> >> > Python packages and modules (most are optional):
>> >> >
>> >> > Name               Installed    Version                    Path
>> >> > minfx              True         Unknown
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/relax/2.1.0/minfx
>> >> > bmrblib            True         Unknown
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/relax/2.1.0/bmrblib
>> >> > numpy              True         1.6.1
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy
>> >> > scipy              True         0.10.0
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/scipy
>> >> > wxPython           True         2.8.12.1 (gtk2-unicode)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode/wx
>> >> > mpi4py             False
>> >> > epydoc             False
>> >> > optparse           True         1.5.3
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/optparse.pyc
>> >> > readline           True
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/readline.so
>> >> > profile            True
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/profile.pyc
>> >> > bz2                True
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/bz2.so
>> >> > gzip               True
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/gzip.pyc
>> >> > os.devnull         True
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/os.pyc
>> >> > xml                True         0.8.4 (internal)
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/xml/__init__.pyc
>> >> > xml.dom.minidom    True
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/xml/dom/minidom.pyc
>> >> >
>> >> > relax information:
>> >> >     Version:                 2.1.0
>> >> >     Processor fabric:        Uni-processor.
>> >> >
>> >> > relax C modules:
>> >> >
>> >> > Module                 Compiled    File type
>> >> > Path
>> >> > maths_fns.relax_fit    True        ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD
>> >> > x86-64,
>> >> > version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
>> >> > /programs/x86_64-linux/relax/2.1.0/maths_fns/relax_fit.so
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Will get the wx_python o/p by tomorrow
>> >> >
>> >> > venkat
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Edward d'Auvergne
>> >> > <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Venkat,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have seen the log file attached to your bug report
>> >> >> (https://gna.org/bugs/?19987).  There seems to be two separate
>> >> >> issues
>> >> >> here.  The first is the two failures in the system tests.  As you
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> probably see, this is for Art Palmer's Modelfree4 program.  From the
>> >> >> lower precision of the chi-squared values from your installed
>> >> >> version,
>> >> >> I would assume that you have a version much older than the current
>> >> >> (though still very old) 4.20 version which includes a number of
>> >> >> patches I sent to Art to fix bugs and to compile with GCC
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (http://biochemistry.hs.columbia.edu/labs/palmer/software/modelfree.html).
>> >> >>  You can ignore these two failures.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The second problem is in the GUI tests.  I think these messages
>> >> >> clearly identify the problem.  The important error message is the
>> >> >> very
>> >> >> first:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> >> >>   File
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "/programs/x86_64-linux/relax/2.1.0/test_suite/gui_tests/base_classes.py",
>> >> >> line 198, in setUp
>> >> >>     self.app.gui = Main(parent=None, id=-1, title="")
>> >> >>   File "/programs/x86_64-linux/relax/2.1.0/gui/relax_gui.py", line
>> >> >> 162, in __init__
>> >> >>     self.add_start_screen()
>> >> >>   File "/programs/x86_64-linux/relax/2.1.0/gui/relax_gui.py", line
>> >> >> 259, in add_start_screen
>> >> >>     image = wx.StaticBitmap(self, -1,
>> >> >> bitmap_setup(paths.IMAGE_PATH+'ulysses_shadowless_400x168.png'))
>> >> >>   File "/programs/x86_64-linux/relax/2.1.0/gui/misc.py", line 133,
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> bitmap_setup
>> >> >>     bitmap.SetMaskColour(None)
>> >> >>   File
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "/programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode/wx/_gdi.py",
>> >> >> line 632, in SetMaskColour
>> >> >>     return _gdi_.Bitmap_SetMaskColour(*args, **kwargs)
>> >> >> PyAssertionError: C++ assertion "Ok()" failed at
>> >> >> ./src/gtk/colour.cpp(146) in Blue(): invalid colour
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The second is just an error caused by the failure of the first test
>> >> >> -
>> >> >> nothing to worry about.  You can then see that these two error
>> >> >> messages are alternatively repeated for all the GUI tests.  The key
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> the failure of the setting of the mask
>> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mask_%28computing%29#Image_masks) for
>> >> >> the bitmap image.  This clearly indicates that your wxPython install
>> >> >> is broken (for your sys admin - I'm guessing because of the linking
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> the GTK+ libraries).  You might be able to test this with the
>> >> >> wxPython
>> >> >> demos for this wxPython version.  Try the following and see if you
>> >> >> observe error messages:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> $ /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/bin/python run.py
>> >> >> GenericButtons.py
>> >> >> $ /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/bin/python run.py
>> >> >> StaticBitmap.py
>> >> >> $ /programs/x86_64-linux/python/2.7.2/bin/python run.py ComboCtrl.py
>> >> >>
>> >> >> These should all run fine.  Note you need to be in the wx_demo
>> >> >> directory containing the run.py and other files.  Could you copy and
>> >> >> paste the output of these tests.  Also, I just noticed that your
>> >> >> information from:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> $ relax --info
>> >> >>
>> >> >> was accidentally not sent to the mailing lists.  Could you copy and
>> >> >> paste that output as well for reference.  Remember to click on
>> >> >> 'reply-to-all' rather than just 'reply' when responding.  Other
>> >> >> information that would be useful is how is this wxPython installed?
>> >> >> Is it installed from the package management system, is it downloaded
>> >> >> binaries, or is it self compiled?  Is it also installed locally or
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> an NFS share, for example?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Edward
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> P.S.  To summarize, here is a check list of needed information:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1. wx_demo tests output.
>> >> >> 2. relax --info output.
>> >> >> 3. wxPython install info.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 8 August 2012 13:07, venkataraman <venkat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > I had sent the error report as a text file for the o/p of
>> >> >> >  relax --test-suite on x86_64-linux on centOS5.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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